Best Spell to Maximize

What is the best spell to Maximize?

  • Poison

    Votes: 22 32.4%
  • Fireball / Lightning Bolt

    Votes: 15 22.1%
  • Magic Missile

    Votes: 13 19.1%
  • Bull Strength / Endurance / Cats Grace

    Votes: 14 20.6%
  • Inflict X Wounds

    Votes: 2 2.9%
  • Harm - Oh yeah baby

    Votes: 2 2.9%

I point to page 140 of Magic of Faerun. It says that Screaming weapons do work in Silence spells.

So, are you telling me that a sonic spell doesn't work, BUT an energy type weapon Does?
 

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Xarlen said:
The shatter spell doesn't mention that it's unable to be used in a Silence spell.

All right, let me look at your arguement.

You say that a Silence spell negates a Sonic energy attack.

Now, you could say that the Sound is doing the damage to the target, then someone immune to Deafening effects takes no damage, right? SInce they can't Hear it, then they take no damage. Like undead. So, undead are immune to sonic damage

If you say that no, just because something can't Hear it doesn't mean it's not damaged... Well, all the Silence spell does is basicly drown out all sound. So, wouldn't you say the energy that does the damage is still there, just not heard? :)

"This spell provides a defense against sonic or language-based attacks"

and again I say...

Your interpretation is that it effects the auditory reception of each individual within the area of effect. This would be vastly over powered. Where in fact the spell stop sound dead. No sound means no shock wave. The spell is Sonic damage not force damage.
 


Xarlen said:
The shatter spell doesn't mention that it's unable to be used in a Silence spell.

All right, let me look at your arguement.

You say that a Silence spell negates a Sonic energy attack.

Now, you could say that the Sound is doing the damage to the target, then someone immune to Deafening effects takes no damage, right? SInce they can't Hear it, then they take no damage. Like undead. So, undead are immune to sonic damage

If you say that no, just because something can't Hear it doesn't mean it's not damaged... Well, all the Silence spell does is basicly drown out all sound. So, wouldn't you say the energy that does the damage is still there, just not heard? :)

No. Just because you can't registre the pressure doesn't mean that it isn't there. Deafness has nothing to do with it. Deafness will only protect you against recieving information (Suggestion etc.). Silence prevent the pressure all together.

That's how I see it.
 
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It's hearing the sound that causes the damage, it's the energy in the sound wave. I don't think it matters whether or not you can hear something to suffer sonic damage (glass doesn't shatter because it heard the noise), but because of the actual sound wave.

So, if silence blocks the sound wave, then I would say it stops sonic damage. If it just prevents you from hearing (which isn't enough to stop spellcasting in my opinion), then yeah, I'd say you'd still suffer damage.

IceBear
 


Xarlen said:
Now, you could say that the Sound is doing the damage to the target, then someone immune to Deafening effects takes no damage, right? SInce they can't Hear it, then they take no damage. Like undead. So, undead are immune to sonic damage

Nope you're saying that,. I'm just reading the spell. I think they do take damage because there is nothing to say that they don't. Unlike the silence spell discription.
 


Magic Rub said:


Nope you're saying that,. I'm just reading the spell. I think they do take damage because there is nothing to say that they don't. Unlike the silence spell discription.

I said 'Could' for a reason.
 

Xarlen said:
And so I say again: I point to page 140 of Magic of Faerun. It says that Screaming weapons do work in Silence spells.

Honestly: I don't care much about Faerun stuff. It's too good for powergaming.
 

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