D&D 5E Booming Blade and Green-Flame Blade Nerfed in TCoE

[Paul Farquhar]

I think they should have let them work with War Caster still. But the other changes I can totally see them not having realized and not wanting them to work.

Finding a wording that permitted War Caster but barred Twin Spell would have required too many linguistic hoops.

 

[Zardnaar]

They're still trying to get the gish concept working 6 years after release lol.

Big part of it is the hands free part of warcaster feat built in.

 

[Benjamin Olson]

I find it kind of a bummer, but if I imagine myself as a DM who hasn't spent way too many hours studying the minutia of 5e rules I would probably find it a lot easier to adjudicate as now written. I lament the loss of warcaster compatibility, but that compatibility basically just guaranteed arguments about how the movement of the enemy that triggered the attack interacted with the rider damage for moving. And ultimately I think it is better design to discourage the sort of gimmicky multi-feat power-builds that comboing x, y, and z onto SCAG cantrips tended to encourage.

I do like adding a nominal cost to the weapon so that there is not questions over using an arcane focus in its place, and I do think the wording is clearer overall.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

so that there is not questions over using an arcane focus in its place

Staff?

 

[Horwath]

Finding a wording that permitted War Caster but barred Twin Spell would have required too many linguistic hoops.

"this spell cannot be modified by twin spell metamagic effect or similar abilities".

 

[Paul Farquhar]

"this spell cannot be modified by twin spell metamagic effect or similar abilities".

What do you mean by a "similar ability?"

 

[Horwath]

What do you mean by a "similar ability?"

if anything similar creeps in, in following books as class features or monster abilities.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

if anything similar creeps in following books as class features or monster abilities.

How would I know if it's similar if you don't define what you mean by similar?

 

[Al'Kelhar]

How would I know if it's similar if you don't define what you mean by similar?

You, sir, are cordially invited to the Mad Hatter's Tea Party!

 

[Horwath]

How would I know if it's similar if you don't define what you mean by similar?

if something duplicates effect of a spell should be similar enough.