Brave New Planes OOC

[Brother Shatterstone]

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What? You can't count the Sword as treasure. The Sword is an intelligent ally that was rescued from prison.
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I did it mostly for party balance but we all would only lose like 4,000 if we "gave" it to you and you simply got zero gold for the adventure.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Seriously, Conan took a 1/5 share of the platinum we took from the Seer's quarters, the Sword, and the Bracers. If you wish to negotiate a different share of the treasure with him, please feel free to do so.

IC: That's simply not an option at least not for Brystasia.

In your own posts you talked about selling it. :shrug:

But If you feel that’s the deal you got that's the deal you got. It's not like my character needs money...

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

out of date

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

This should probably be under my next post but I simply don’t want it to be overlooked.

Are individual breakdowns have changed due to Conan having his own agreement and also to reflect that the Armor isn't Sandorel’s but the groups that still needs to be sold/dealt with. When the armor is sold it will be spilt up in four ways. (Conan will not be eligible to receive payment.)

Grand Total with Seer's wealth: 885,350

Each member would get: 221,338

individual breakdowns

Antillus: Headband of Intellect +6, Staff of Frost, Pink Ioun Stone, Gloves of Dexterity, , Scrolls of many things, Wand of Fireball. (Item Wealth: 167,350) GP Wealth: 53,988

Brystasia: Rod of Absorption, 67,663 GP "Ley" from Conan (Item Wealth: 117,663) GP Wealth: 103,675

Conan: Sword, Bracers of Armor +8 (Item Wealth: 269,000) GP Wealth: 20,000

Sandorel: Ring of Wizardry, (Item Wealth: 20,000) GP Wealth: 201,338

Vilya: Ring of Protection +3 (Item Wealth: 18,000) GP Wealth: 203,338

Serpenteye, if you look above you'll see that I gave you the ring of wizardry. I honestly hope you don't mind but I also realize that you have no signature item so if it’s an issue please let me know and Brystasia will take that burden also. On a positive note it's small and rather inexpensive to carry in till you do name your signature item.

PA, obviously any shopping list I sent you is null in void now as I can't afford them. I'll work on something tomorrow/later today.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Looting Rules

Okay people,

Unlike my normal OOC posts you can consider this one to be most important. It's been pretty much decided that I'm the group leader. To be honest leadership isn't something I wanted but due to circumstances, be they my character, my posting habits, or simply cause I stepped forward its happened.

Now my character might be carefree when it comes to the concerns of money and to be honest so am I but we simply need some semblance of balance with monetary value in the party as it does represent power.

These rules do not reflect upon Endur in anyway as I don’t think anyone realized the sword was that valuable. I was expecting something close to 120K to 150K but the prize was so much sweeter.

Now all that said I've lived my whole life believing, and most of my adult life protecting democracy so these purposed "Loot Rules" will not take effect in till over half of the players say yay or nay.

Also of note with the below new rules the amount of money every will be getting will change a bit. At the moment I believe, as I haven’t done the math yet, this will cause a slight decrease in coins for all members but this will only be temporary.

Those changes are:
1) Conan’s share for this “looting” will be handled separately from the others party members but this doesn’t mean that there will not be balance in later “lootings.”
2) Sandorel will not be stuck with the Demon armor nor am I going to assume that some one wants an item that radiates evil. Sandorel will try and sale this item on his planer travels. (This is the reason for the slight reduction in coins but we will get those coins back when he sales it, or at least most of it.)

Looting Rules

0) All valuables found will be the groups in till PA calls for a “looting”.
1) All magical items will be valued at their DMG, or other books, market value.
2) Coins will be converted to gold pieces, this will probably be a paper work only change.
3) For looting purposes the market value of items and the actually physical coins will be added up before dividing the “loot”. This is called the “market coin value.”
4) Each party member will get an equal share of loot in the form of market coin value.
5) If there are more magical items than party members then each party member will take at least one magical item.
6) People who plan on using the item for their own gain have the right to the item over someone who simply wants to destroy the item for their signature item.
7) If an item is worth more than an equal share than the party member who wants the item will have to pay the other members back in the form of a “levy” at the next “looting.”
8) If no one wants and item that is worth more than an equal share than it will simply stay in the group bag in till next “looting.” At which point we will try again to find a proper usage for the item.
9) If someone owes a “levy” they must first pay the group back before they can collect from a “looting.”
10) “Levy” will be owned to the party and not a single individual.
11) When paying a “Levy” you must give up your coins first.
12) If you want to loan money to each other please do so but you do so at your own risk. An individual will not be given coins just so they can pay you back.

I hope that’s all we need and hopefully we don’t need this half but if I could have a vote from all of the above I would appreciate it. Wrahn the above will affect Meekel so please vote also. (please for my mental well being please copy some sort of this post so I know what you’re agreeing too.)

Now we need an example so everyone can see this work but luckily we have one.

An equal share was: 221,338 GP
Conan’s equipment and coins was: 269,000
The difference is: -67,663

So after the next adventure and we go to divide the loot Conan will give up 67,663GP of his share to the group* before he does anything else with it. His “levy” will now be paid off.

* Since no one has agreed to these rules this one is going to be slightly different as Conan will owe Brystasia and not the group. I do this cause I honestly fill like I let you all down plus I’m the leader and their for its my responsibility to take the hit.

 

[Dalamar]

I agree to the rules as they stand as of your last edit at 9:14AM GMT, the March 23 (I'm not going to needlessly copy the whole damn thing in my post).

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

I agree to the rules as they stand as of your last edit at 9:14AM GMT, the March 23

Yeah I dropped in rule zero... I see no future edits as I think we got everything covered.

(I'm not going to needlessly copy the whole damn thing in my post).

Nor did I want you to; I just wanted beyond a doubt that you agreed to it.

 

[Wrahn]

I think your proposal is fine, you have my aye.

Just as an aside, the way I used to play prior to 3.0 was that all money was split and all magic items were given to those who could use them. Magic items were never something you would sell because 1) there was no market for them and 2) they were too precious. Is this unusual to my play area or have you guys found (like me) that with 3.0 magic items and money became far more interchangable?

 

[Serpenteye]

That looks reasonable. You have my vote BS.

At these levels most of the loot we find is not going to be very useful to any of us (Conan excepted), since we all have plenty of magic items in all our slots that have been optimised for our builds. We are going to have to sell most of what we find (or cannibalise it into our signature items).

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Just as an aside, the way I used to play prior to 3.0 was that all money was split and all magic items were given to those who could use them.

I agree with you and I'm all for having an item that someone is going to use being giving to a person. (hince rule # 6) but with the signature item magic items do need to be balanced cause they can indeed be "sold" or at least can be used to make your itme more powerful.

Personally, I'm not very found of buying magic items, this isn't Diablo after all, but epic level characters have access to plane travel and do have the ability to sale items.

At these levels most of the loot we find is not going to be very useful to any of us (Conan excepted), since we all have plenty of magic items in all our slots that have been optimised for our builds.

Not really true my character wasn't optimized cause I had the 3 items over 70K rules. This rule was bent for Conan as he had 5 items over the 70K max and look at how much trouble the rest of us have had with finding "inherent books" and he started play with five of them maxed out and another one at +2 for good measure.

So yeah it’s going to be much easier for Conan to find magical items for his empty slots but a simple look at his character sheet shows that he has had his fair share of treasure.

We are going to have to sell most of what we find (or cannibalise it into our signature items).

I think most of the unneeded magical items will be cannibalized and I'll do my best to see that continues just like you saw in Antillus' loot. You might need to hold onto an item till you can afford your next “upgrade” but I believe I can be creative enough to keep this to a minimum. Plus if it does happen Brystasia will probably take the hit.

Thanks for the votes and this has passed but Endur and Velenne please fill free to chime in on this.

If anyone sees any potential pitfalls please say so... I wrote most of this after midnight.