Brave New Planes OOC

[Brother Shatterstone]

Beautiful feats like Improved Spell Capacity, Improved Metamagic, Multispell, Automatic Quicken Spell, and so forth.

True enough. I stand corrected.

If the current list of spells doesn't suit, I'll be willing to look at spells of 10th or higher level if you'd like to research them.

So your saying that your going to allow epic spells that are in the ELH?

 

[Paxus Asclepius]

No, because those don't have a level. I mean spells which use a slot of higher than 9th level, and have corresponding power. There's really nothing special that makes 9th level the highest level of spell that should be castable, nor (failing Wish and Miracle, which I avoid like a bad cliche) are 9th level spells so potent that they can't be surpassed.

 

[Serpenteye]

EDIT: I'm thinking that it might be best, especially if we go gestalt, that we drop Epic Spellcasting; it's a little out of hand when you have two full spellcasting classes. It also tends to shift spellcasting even more towards buffs than instantaneous effects, which in my opinion isn't a good thing.

I guess it's no more than fair, otherwise Sandorel will always be far more powerful than the other characters. But if we don't get epic magic it should not be in the hands of NPC's either, it should simply not exist in the Multiverse and not even the greatest of gods should have it.

 

[Serpenteye]

If the current list of spells doesn't suit, I'll be willing to look at spells of 10th or higher level if you'd like to research them.

That would be a great alternative, I would be willing to write up some new spells.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

... not even the greatest of gods should have it.

God, you even talk OOC in character! Very interesting point.

I had assumed that the NPC wouldn't have it either but a god is a god... and there for beyond my simple grasp. (Of course PA should know.)

 

[Paxus Asclepius]

It was in part a desire not to have my NPCs using epic magic that motivated this decision; as I said, it would have been child's play to give her unbeatable SR and a DR that only Conan could have overcome readily. Gods are another matter entirely; they've got salient abilities which make most mortal magics, even epic, look faintly silly. Of course, the operative word there is most.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

PA, great! Sounds like gestalt epic here we come but there's still one issue... Brystasia has an ECL, and at this point she's the only one in the group with this issue... How do you want to handle this?

I personally think that the half nymph template isn't worth the LA +2 in any game... In the Vile game, Loviana got eat alive. In this game Brystasia would be hard pressed to win against either one of the others though she might be able to make it work close...

Anyhow how do you want to handle a LA in a gestalt game? Surely losing four class levels would be to punishing, (LA: 2 across the board) so why don't we just drop it to a LA 1 and she can lose the normal two levels...

I would suggest just dropping it totally but that probably isn't fair to the other two... (if they would support this I wouldn’t mind seeing their support… )

PA, also do you have UA yet? and are you willing to use some of the other variants presented in this book? (I still plan on having Brystasia’s favored soul come into effect at the fifth level so there is a rogue variant in there that I really like. It turns the paladin from a lumber armored tank to an agile fighter. Basically you swap the rogue sneak attack for fighter feats.)

 

[Paxus Asclepius]

I do have UA, but the Thug variant isn't one I like using. My thought for the template was to simply treat it as a template class; your first two levels would be half-nymph/(other class).

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

I do have UA, but the Thug variant isn't one I like using.

Thug? I was acutally talking about the rogue variant on 9g 58. (Bottom right)

My thought for the template was to simply treat it as a template class; your first two levels would be half-nymph/(other class).

I would rather not do it like that as I'm hoping to pick up some nice 1st level skills and not get stuck with the skills of a 1st level paladin... If you catch my drift.

 

[Paxus Asclepius]

I misremembered which variant the Thug was. I still would prefer not to use that variant; if you want the fighter feats, take fighter levels. I also believe that losing two levels of one class is a closer approximation of LA +2 than losing one level of both classes, but I suppose I can allow the latter in this case.