D&D General Build the "Definitive Pantheon"

[Zardnaar]

Which "extinct" pantheons?

In Scandinavia, Norse, Sámi, and Finnish traditions are culturally sacred. Additionally, there are groups that adhere to them as religious worldviews. Norse folkbelief tends to be fun, but accurate representation and cultural sensibility are important.

In Egypt, Egyptian pantheon and Ancient Egypt generally are culturally sacred.

Greek too is culturally sacred, albeit the Greek Hellenistic ideal tends to welcome other cultures to borrow freely. Meanwhile there are groups today who adhere to Greek polytheism as religious worldview (mainly Neopagan).

Since the Renaissance, Paneuropean literature tends to embrace Roman polytheism as symbolic literary motifs.

Those pantheons died long ago.

Modern recreations are exactly that. I'm using the Greek one atm it's opt in.

Greek one lingered until 9th or 10th century, Egyptian 6th maybe 7th, Norse varies.

 

[Zardnaar]

Sexism and racism have also been part of D&D since day 1 (mostly as stray remarks here and there). A tradition doesnt make something ok. New generations are free to update any tradition, especially on behalf of ethical concerns.

Whose ethics? If enough people say it's a problem sure.

Why does Yaarel get to gatekeep is the main point?

 

[CleverNickName]

 

[Yaarel]

Whose ethics? If enough people say it's a problem sure.

Why does Yaarel get to gatekeep is the main point?

I am Norwegian. My culture cares about Norse traditions and literature. I am academically familiar with the West Asia and have lived there as part of the cultures. I witness often and clearly how culturally sensitive the topic of religion is.

Religious coercion is ALWAYS ethically wrong, despite admirable traditions sometimes indulging it.

I am not the one pushing a religious premise.

I am saying, the core rules for religion must be Opt In.

Let each table decide for itself. Your own table can decide for your own selves what is appropriate at your own table. The core rules need to be neutral on the culturally sensitive topic of religion.

 

[Zardnaar]

I am Norwegian. My culture cares about Norse traditions and literature. I am academically familiar with the West Asia and have lived there as part of the cultures. I witness often and clearly how culturally sensitive the topic of religion is.

Religious coercion is ALWAYS ethically wrong, despite admirable traditions sometimes indulging it.

I am not the one pushing a religious premise.

I am saying, the core rules for religion must be Opt In.

Let each table decide for itself. Your own table can decide for your own selves what is appropriate at your own table. The core rules need to be neutral on the culturally sensitive topic of religion.

They are already more or less neutral on it. Haven't read the cleric write up for a while tbh so could be wrong there.

 

[jmartkdr2]

Technically, GW1 eventually led to the ascension of a (replacement) sixth, Kormir, who had previously been human but, through deed and through the assistance of the other five, replaced the previous (imprisoned) sixth god, Abbadon. In the process, she inverted his core domain; he was the God of Secrets, while she became the Goddess of Truth.

Yeah, I never liked that bit Abaddon was a good antagonist, though, so if I were to use the pantheon I'd keep him in place.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

I view this coercive approach to religion as a form of bullying.

Question, do you think other RPG's need to change their setting lore? Like Pathfinder, Warhammer, Exalted and numerous others?

 

[Yaarel]

Question, do you think other RPG's need to change their setting lore? Like Pathfinder, Warhammer, Exalted and numerous others?

For core rules, pretty much yes.

However, a specific alternative setting is inherently Opt-In, as is homebrew. So, while caution remains necessary, it is more ok for a specific setting to lean into a specific religion. Theros does this for Greekesque. Theros seems suitable to plug in as factions in a regional setting for many world settings.

For any world setting, I expect multiculturalism and therefore, necessarily, religious relativism.

 

[Zardnaar]

For core rules, pretty much yes.

However, a specific alternative setting is inherently Opt-In, as is homebrew. So, while caution remains necessary, it is more ok for a specific setting to lean into a specific religion. Theros does this for Greekesque.

For any world setting, I expect multiculturalism and therefore, necessarily, religious relativism.

I know a Greek guy he hates Theros lol.

I was considering running it but just used fantasy Greece instead.

 

[Yaarel]

I know a Greek guy he hates Theros lol.

I was considering running it but just used fantasy Greece instead.

Whenever referring to a reallife name, it is necessary to become aware of reallife concerns.