D&D General Build the "Definitive Pantheon"

[Yaarel]

I would rather D&D just have its default assumptions. You are allowed to change it, but the default should be as it currently is. Official settings have no need to change because of someone’s religious beliefs, cause the settings are not real.

I view this coercive approach to religion as a form of bullying.

 

[Yaarel]

Players that are members of a majority religion dont share the same existentialist concerns as players that are members of a minority religion.

For example, in Hebrew, to "religiously coerce" and to "rape" is the same word (אנס).


Religious coercion includes atheists satirizing sincere Christians, and Christians demonizing Nonchristians, as well as ignorance and ethnocentrism generally.


WotC (and Hasbro generally) do best to maintain a stance of strict religious neutrality, cultural relativism, and facilitating the preferences of each particular table separately. Session Zero and opt-in. Presenting "factions" seems the most elegant approach. Especially for the core rules.

 

[Zardnaar]

I view this coercive approach to religion as a form of bullying.

Ultimately it's opt in our out. If one doesn't like D&D religions opt out.

Different setting same approach. Find one that works for you.

You're never going to please everyone and it's a waste of time trying.

 

[W'rkncacnter]

For example, in Hebrew, to "religiously coerce" and to "rape" is the same word (אנס).

how the hell did we get HERE?

...actually, maybe DON'T answer that...

 

[Yaarel]

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how the hell did we get HERE?

...actually, maybe DON'T answer that...

We "get here" immediately, when D&D tries to push a religion.

Religion is an (extremely) culturally sensitive topic.

 

[Zardnaar]

We "get here" immediately, when D&D tries to push a religion.

Religion is an (extremely) culturally sensitive topic.

It's not pushing much of anything. It includes some fantasy stuff and 3 extinct pantheons iirc in the phb.

It hits a lot of cultural tropes and touchstones that have been around for millenia.

 

[Yaarel]

It's not pushing much of anything. It includes some fantasy stuff and 3 extinct pantheons iirc in the phb.

It hits a lot of cultural tropes and touchstones that have been around for millenia.

"Opt out" is coercive, official pressure and peer pressure.

"Opt in", lets each table freely do what seems fun.

 

[Yaarel]

It's not pushing much of anything. It includes some fantasy stuff and 3 extinct pantheons iirc in the phb.

It hits a lot of cultural tropes and touchstones that have been around for millenia.

Which "extinct" pantheons?

In Scandinavia, Norse, Sámi, and Finnish traditions are culturally sacred. Additionally, there are groups that adhere to them as religious worldviews. Norse folkbelief tends to be fun, but accurate representation and cultural sensibility are important.

In Egypt, Egyptian pantheon and Ancient Egypt generally are culturally sacred.

Greek too is culturally sacred, albeit the Greek Hellenistic ideal tends to welcome other cultures to borrow freely. Meanwhile there are groups today who adhere to Greek polytheism as religious worldview (mainly Neopagan).

Since the Renaissance, Paneuropean literature tends to embrace Roman polytheism as symbolic literary motifs.

 

[Zardnaar]

"Opt out" is coercive, official pressure and peer pressure.

"Opt in", lets each table freely do what seems fun.

That's D&D though. Been there since day 1 it's a large appeal of the game. See BG3 and the dead 3 plot.

Won't appeal to everyone sure. Probably appeals to more people than cutting it.

 

[Yaarel]

That's D&D though. Been there since day 1 it's a large appeal of the fame. See BG3 and the dead 3 plot.

Won't appeal to everyone sure. Probably appeals to more people than cutting it.

Sexism and racism have also been part of D&D since day 1 (mostly as stray remarks here and there). A tradition doesnt make something ok. New generations are free to update any tradition, especially on behalf of ethical concerns.