Can sorcerers use metamagic rods without the full round action penalty?

[Tidus4444]

I.E, should a sorcerer take the rod of metamagic, quicken?

 

[Thanee]

You have read the item's description?

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Thanee

 

[Hypersmurf]

You have read the item's description?

If he'd said 'bard', I would have thought it a valid question

-Hyp.

 

[Malin Genie]

From the 3.5 SRD

Possession of a metamagic rod does not confer the associated feat on the owner, only the ability to use the given feat a specified number of times per day. A sorcerer still must take a full-round action when using a metamagic rod, just as if using a metamagic feat he possesses.

Play nice, children - haven't you ever been in the position of reading a description and for no good reason completely missing something really really obvious ?

 

[Hypersmurf]

Play nice, children...

Hey, that's my line!

-Hyp.

 

[Thanee]

Hey, I told him everything he needs to know.

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Thanee

 

[Pax]

Of course, this then raises the NEXT question - should Sorcerors and Bards have to spend the full-round action to use these rods? Or should prepared casters have to use the rods during spell preparation to gain their benefits?

^_^

 

[Thanee]

The latter, IMHO. These things are broken enough with no change in spell level, no need to make them even better and have everyone ignore their class-specific disadvantages concerning metamagic. Or even worse, have prepared casters ignore them and spontaneous casters keep them.

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Thanee

 

[Hypersmurf]

Of course, this then raises the NEXT question - should Sorcerors and Bards have to spend the full-round action to use these rods? Or should prepared casters have to use the rods during spell preparation to gain their benefits?

Well, you missed out "Do bards have to spend the full-round action?"

As for the prepared casters using during preparation, there's a camp that argue that that's exactly what is required by the rods as written. There's a four-thousand-page thread on the WotC boards arguing about it.

Well, it feels like four thousand pages, anyway

-Hyp.

 

[Thanee]

Yep, there are quite a few arguments, that it actually would work that way as written (and nothing in the description contradicts this either), but when reading it, intuitively one thinks, that they can be used spontaneously, while casting a spell.

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Thanee