D&D 5E Can you use dueling and TWF at the same time? I think you can RAW.

[Baron Opal II]

But the last sentence of two weapon fighting says you can use it to throw either of the equipped weapons (unless I'm missing your point of confusion). Thus throwing a dagger triggers the clause for the bonus action attack.

Well, yes. If your plan is to throw both weapons that round and you are able to do so (both being daggers, as you mentioned) you can do that. You are skilled at using two weapons at a time and are doing so.

 

[Baron Opal II]

No, if you're holding two light thrown weapons, you can throw both weapons with two-weapon fighting. That means I can throw the first weapon using the Attack action which qualifies me for a bonus action attack with the second weapon, which I can also throw.

(Ninja'd by @James Gasik.)

Well, it seems odd that you having one weapon triggers an aspect of TWF. But the RAI seems to be that you can throw two throwable weapons, and that fits the theme.

 

[billd91]

Well, it seems odd that you having one weapon triggers an aspect of TWF. But the RAI seems to be that you can throw two throwable weapons, and that fits the theme.

What's odd about it? When you started your attack action, you had two weapons - one in each hand. That you ended up with something less than that because you threw one or more of them in your attacks is immaterial. You were still fighting with two weapons.

 

[Charlaquin]

Hmm...does this mean you can use Dueling with Monk's unarmed attacks (if you had a monk weapon in your primary hand) and Flurry of Blows?

No because dueling only applies to damage with that weapon and unarmed attacks aren’t weapons.

 

[Mistwell]

I think it 1) works just fine, 2) is not overpowered, and 3) isn't even the strongest power gaming option with Bugbear.

 

[Charlaquin]

Well, yes. If your plan is to throw both weapons that round and you are able to do so (both being daggers, as you mentioned) you can do that. You are skilled at using two weapons at a time and are doing so.

The rule says you can throw either weapon, so no, you don’t have to throw both. We can certainly argue about whether you should be allowed to benefit from the dueling fighting style on an attack that you were only enabled to make by the two weapon fighting rules, but it is explicitly clear that if you are holding a light melee weapon in each hand and either throw or make a melee attack with one of them, you can then use a bonus action to either throw or make a melee attack with the other.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

The rule says you can throw either weapon, so no, you don’t have to throw both. We can certainly argue about whether you should be allowed to benefit from the dueling fighting style on an attack that you were only enabled to make by the two weapon fighting rules, but it is explicitly clear that if you are holding a light melee weapon in each hand and either throw or make a melee attack with one of them, you can then use a bonus action to either throw or make a melee attack with the other.

But that is applying common sense! The entire thread is about ignoring the common sense that you can't use a one handed and two handed fighting style at the same time and trying to legalistically interpret the precise wording.

 

[James Gasik]

I fail to see how it's common sense. The rule says "do this, then you can do that" for two weapon fighting (not a fighting style by the way, but a base combat rule anyone can use).

Then duelist fighting style says "if you attack with a one handed weapon and have nothing in the other hand, get +2 damage". That's it, no need to invent other rules or restrictions that don't exist in the rules.

As with everything else, it's up to the DM, who can make their own rulings, but nothing in the text implies you couldn't do this. You're certainly allowed to mix other fighting styles- if I wear armor, Defensive gives me +1 AC. It doesn't turn off with other styles.

It only "turns off" if I'm not longer wearing armor.

Similarly, if I have Thrown Weapon Fighting Style: "when you hit with a ranged attack using a thrown weapon, you gain a +2 bonus to the damage roll."

So in this instance of a guy with Two Weapon Fighting throwing two daggers, Thrown Weapon Fighting Style applies when I use a ranged attack with a thrown weapon.

The class feature only checks to see if it's valid when you use it. I would think that is common sense.

 

[Flamestrike]

"Surprise Attack. If you hit a creature with an attack roll, the creature takes an extra 2d6 damage if it hasn’t taken a turn yet in the current combat."


You could actually get it for every attack for 2 turns if you both surprise an enemy and beat him in initiative,

No you cant.

A surprised creature still has a turn on Round 1, he just cant take actions on it or move (or take reactions till that 1st turn ends).

 

[Hriston]

Well, it seems odd that you having one weapon triggers an aspect of TWF. But the RAI seems to be that you can throw two throwable weapons, and that fits the theme.

It isn’t “having one weapon” that grants the bonus action. It’s holding two light weapons and making an attack with one of them, the exact scenario described in the OP.