Changeover Poll

[La Bete]

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It's not your night - ninjaed twice in a row!

 

[garyh]

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I'm sneaky for being 6'7".

Also, I'm Jewish (although not the Old World-style Jew as in the picture), so the picture is doubly appropriate. Where is that from?

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[Treebore]

Tell you what, run this exact same poll on Paizo's boards until you get the same number of votes. Then run it on WOTCs boards, and RPG.net. When you see it gives you an incredibly drastically different result depending on the board you run the poll on, maybe you will admit that this kind of poll is not a representative sample of 4e in general.

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OK, I see, you don't understand confounds and tools/formula's available for statistical analysis that correct/account for these confounds. Well I do.

 

[garyh]

OK, I see, you don't understand confounds and tools/formula's available for statistical analysis that correct/account for these confounds. Well I do.

Please, explain then. I took a year of stats and a year of econometrics as an undergrad, and another year of survey and research design in grad school, and I'm not aware of any way to compensate for the inherent problems of a self-selected poll. Maybe I'm just being forgetful.

I have NO problem with the whole "1,000 people to predict the entire US" angle. It's just that the 1,000 have to be a random sample of the entire population you're claiming to project to make any sense. Asking 1,000 people in San Francisco versus asking 1,000 people in Salt Lake City is obviously going to give you a different picture of things, I think you'll agree.

 

[The Green Adam]

As usual, I don't see a choice for me...

I must be the weirdest gamer on the face of the Earth as everytime a poll is made I find myself unable to reply. There is almost never a choice fitting me and my group.

Played 4E, not converting, not playing any edition of D&D anymore.

Unless I'm struck with an overpowering wave of nostalgia or a very select, very small group of people ask me to run it as a favor, I'm pretty much done with D&D. I will play periodically in any of the various pre-4E versions, but 4E itself, the attitude of WotC/Hasbro, the way it has divided the community and a dozen other reasons just turned me off and made me look at other game. As it turns out, they were games I've always liked better anyway.

Maybe when 5e comes out I'll give it a whirl but that's about it.

AD

 

[stonegod]

Still play 3.5 and 4E about equally.

 

[Charwoman Gene]

Uhm, do you have any proof of this...

No, it's anecdotal. My Edition Idol Poll skewed WAY against 4e the first time I ran it, without it r3ecording who voted where.

It was way more even without that.

This effect could be due to many many things.

The "I don't give a rats ass about edition polls" factor is also storong. if we could somehow p[oll the populatiopn of enworlders who don't vote in polls... maybe they are %75 4e!

 

[Maggan]

It's a self-selected non-random internet poll.

And it is also wide open to manipulation. This in itself invalidates any analysis made, without also doing a check on possible multiple votings.

All it takes is one person who's decided to skew the results. I've seen it happen on other sites, where edition wars were conducted via polls and where both sides would hammer the preferred option.

In one place it got so bad that they had to remove the option of doing polls.

So, since the interest in this poll runs so high, I suggest it be redone as a public poll.

/M

 

[Jasperak]

So, since the interest in this poll runs so high, I suggest it be redone as a public poll.

/M

I second that and wish any poll that had anything to do with 3e and 4e would be public.

 

[Tuft]

I second that and wish any poll that had anything to do with 3e and 4e would be public.

There are different kind of polls? What are the difference?