Class that would complement a Scout/Ranger, Barbarian, Cleric and Vampire

[irdeggman]

Well this still sucks balls because even if he just dominates two people, he can have them dominated for 5 days (considering he would now be at level 10, insofar as there is no level adjustment for psions, something that I have yet to confirm) and still have 75 power points left over. that's just as ridiculous as the gimp. I don't want to be running around with the possibility of being dominated by that Foo. Shouldn't Psion class have a level adjustment? I looked on google and it seems as though there are no CLASS level adjustments whatsoever x_X.

You can only spend an amount of pp (power points) equal to your manifester level.

This is based on the level of manifester classes not character level.

If the character in question is a vampire it carries a +8 Level Adjustment - so in an ECL (Effective Character Level) party of 10 he could only have 2 levels of psion which is not enough to give him access to the dominate, psionic power (which is a 4th level power and requires a minimum psion level of 7 to obtain).

Psion is a class just like any other class - no "class" contains a level adjustment. Some races and "templates" do - like the vampire "template" for instance.

Effective Character Level = total of (class levels + racial hit dice + level adjustment)

 

[parinho7]

i'll insist on my swiftblade build and let the numbers talk
assuming you have a starting charisma of 18 and you get +2 at paragon level 3 and you put your ability points in charisma and you get a cloak of charisma (you haven't mentioned your starting gold and bility points), at level 10 you'll have a charisma of 24 +7 with a +2 cloak.

your base will save at level 10 will be +9
add +7 from your charisma = +16
at paragon 2 you are getting a bonus feat which can be the Force of Personality so you'll replace your charisma modifier instead of wisdom for your will saves against mind affecting and you'll end up with a will score of +23 vs mind-affecting spells and effects.
if this is not enough, at level 12 select greater resistance or ruin delver's fortune (which is an immediate action and adds your charisma mod to one of your saves).
if you want more when you get 6th level spells take superior resistance (24 hour protection).

at level 20: base +15, divine grace +10, force of personality +10, superior resistance +6, ruin delver's fortune +10, TOTAL: +51

 

[Herobizkit]

Also, check out these feats:

Force Of Will [General]
You are able to resist psionic attacks with extreme force of will.

Prerequisite: Iron Will.

Benefit: Once per round, when targeted by a psionic effect that allows a Reflex save or a Fortitude save, you can instead make a Will saving throw to avoid the effect.

Psionic Hole [General]
You are anathema to psionic creatures and characters.

Prerequisite: Con 15.

Benefit: When a foe strikes you in melee combat, the foe immediately loses its psionic focus, if any. Also, if you are the target of a power, the manifester of the power must spend an additional number of power points equal to your Wisdom bonus, or the power fails (all the power points spent on the power are still lost). This extra cost does not count toward the maximum power points a manifester can spend on a single power.

Hostile Mind [General]
Your mind recoils violently against those who use psionics against you.

Prerequisite: Cha 15.

Benefit: Whenever you are subject to a power from the telepathy discipline (regardless of whether the power is harmful or beneficial to you), the manifester must make a Will saving throw against a DC of 10 + ½ your character level + your Charisma bonus or take 2d6 points of damage.

 

[Dandu]

Well this still sucks balls because even if he just dominates two people, he can have them dominated for 5 days (considering he would now be at level 10, insofar as there is no level adjustment for psions, something that I have yet to confirm) and still have 75 power points left over. that's just as ridiculous as the gimp.

You know that as a 10th level Sorcerer, you can use Dominate Person on as many people as you want until you run out of spells, right?

Also, it lasts 1 day/caster level.

Also also, look up Ruin Delver's Fortune in the SRD sometime.

 

[PolterGhost]

So wait, this guy would be the race Vampiric [insert base race here].

With only 2 class levels.

As far as I know, that leaves him with jack for powers, besides level 1s.

So what's the worry about this guy, aside from his racial Dominate Person?

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

So wait, this guy would be the race Vampiric [insert base race here].

With only 2 class levels.

As far as I know, that leaves him with jack for powers, besides level 1s.

So what's the worry about this guy, aside from his racial Dominate Person?

No, I think the OP means he made a new character completely to replace the vampire. So no more vampire ECL to hold back his manifester level.

 

[Dandu]

Fortunately, Psions are "only" tier 2, which means that even though he'll likely be more powerful than the other party members, you can still equal or trump him with the right classes.

 

[Particle_Man]

To the OP, what is your ultimate goal here? To show up the Psion? To not be shown up by the Psion? To fill out a niche in the party that is not being filled? To be useful to the party? To just have fun with a character concept you like? Other?

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

Fortunately, Psions are "only" tier 2, which means that even though he'll likely be more powerful than the other party members, you can still equal or trump him with the right classes.

All Tier 2 means is they can match the power of tier 1 but aren't as versatile. He'd still need to protect himself from the Psion's best attack powers to feel secure. Fortunately, he chose a crappy field to specialize in; almost the whole telepathy discipline can be suppressed by a level 1 spell!

 

[Dandu]

I wouldn't know about that, but Ruin Delver's Fortune gives a pretty hefty bonus on will saves.

And everything else.