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Shade
Monster Junkie
Yeah, definitely maxxed out ranks in Craft (sculpting).
Here's my take on the ability...
Creation (Su): At will, as a full-round action, Prometheus can shape clay into the form of any nonunique creature of the following types: Animal, Aberration, Dragon, Fey, Giant, Humanoid, Magical Beast, Monstrous Humanoid, Ooze, Plant, or Vermin. The sculpture becomes a living creature with average statistics for its type. This creature will serve him until it dies, though Prometheus usually sets it free after a specific service. In return for extraordinary service by one of his clerics, Prometheus may reward the cleric with a companion creature suitable to the cleric's level of experience.
I shortened it to a full-round action, so it matched a summon monster spell, but it could be longer. I thought about adding a Craft (sculpting) check, but even a DC of 50 would be an automatic result for him if he maxxed out his ranks.
I also thought we might set a limit, like animate dead:
Prometheus can control only X HD worth of such creatures at a given time. If he exceeds this number, all the newly created creatures fall under his control, and any excess creatures from previous castings become uncontrolled. (Prometheus chooses which creatures are released.)
Here's my take on the ability...
Creation (Su): At will, as a full-round action, Prometheus can shape clay into the form of any nonunique creature of the following types: Animal, Aberration, Dragon, Fey, Giant, Humanoid, Magical Beast, Monstrous Humanoid, Ooze, Plant, or Vermin. The sculpture becomes a living creature with average statistics for its type. This creature will serve him until it dies, though Prometheus usually sets it free after a specific service. In return for extraordinary service by one of his clerics, Prometheus may reward the cleric with a companion creature suitable to the cleric's level of experience.
I shortened it to a full-round action, so it matched a summon monster spell, but it could be longer. I thought about adding a Craft (sculpting) check, but even a DC of 50 would be an automatic result for him if he maxxed out his ranks.
I also thought we might set a limit, like animate dead:
Prometheus can control only X HD worth of such creatures at a given time. If he exceeds this number, all the newly created creatures fall under his control, and any excess creatures from previous castings become uncontrolled. (Prometheus chooses which creatures are released.)
BOZ
Creature Cataloguer
How about if we turn this statement: “Prometheus can shape clay into the form of any non-unique creature of the following types: Animal, Aberration, Dragon, Fey, Giant, Humanoid, Magical Beast, Monstrous Humanoid, Ooze, Plant, or Vermin.”
into this: “Prometheus can shape clay into the form of any living non-unique creature that is not of extraplanar origin.”
Let’s examine Prometheus’ class-related powers. Giving him all of this would make him seriously overpowered in my opinion. Shade had a couple of suggestions above, but let’s look at the whole picture to really examine what’s going on with Prometheus.
He would have 13th level cleric, 13th level druid, and 15th level wizard spellcasting powers. I don’t think he needs that much! Maybe just two of those would be fine. Additionally, as a 16th level ranger and a 10th level bard, he would have even more spells – but I think he’ll be just fine without those.
As I said, as a 16th-level ranger, that would give him a lot of stuff:
Favored Enemy (would have 4 by then)
Track: A ranger gains Track as a bonus feat.
Wild Empathy
Combat Style
Endurance: A ranger gains Endurance as a bonus feat at 3rd level.
Animal Companion (probably not necessary, as he can create any companion he wants)
Improved Combat Style
Woodland Stride
Swift Tracker
Evasion
Combat Style Mastery
Camouflage
And a bunch of things as 13th-level druid:
Animal Companion (same as ranger)
Nature Sense (Ex): A druid gains a +2 bonus on Knowledge (nature) and Survival checks.
Wild Empathy (same as ranger)
Woodland Stride (same as ranger)
Trackless Step
Resist Nature’s Lure
Wild Shape
Venom Immunity (Ex): At 9th level, a druid gains immunity to all poisons.
A Thousand Faces (Su): At 13th level, a druid gains the ability to change her appearance at will, as if using the alter self spell, but only while in her normal form.
And as 10th-level bard:
Bardic Knowledge
Bardic Music: Countersong, Fascinate, Inspire Courage, Inspire Competence, Suggestion, Inspire Greatness
And as a 10th-level rogue:
Sneak Attack: +5d6
Trapfinding
Evasion (same as ranger)
Trap Sense
Uncanny Dodge
Improved Uncanny Dodge
Special Abilities (1)
And turning undead as a 13th-level cleric.
Lots of stuff.
into this: “Prometheus can shape clay into the form of any living non-unique creature that is not of extraplanar origin.”
Let’s examine Prometheus’ class-related powers. Giving him all of this would make him seriously overpowered in my opinion. Shade had a couple of suggestions above, but let’s look at the whole picture to really examine what’s going on with Prometheus.
He would have 13th level cleric, 13th level druid, and 15th level wizard spellcasting powers. I don’t think he needs that much! Maybe just two of those would be fine. Additionally, as a 16th level ranger and a 10th level bard, he would have even more spells – but I think he’ll be just fine without those.
As I said, as a 16th-level ranger, that would give him a lot of stuff:
Favored Enemy (would have 4 by then)
Track: A ranger gains Track as a bonus feat.
Wild Empathy
Combat Style
Endurance: A ranger gains Endurance as a bonus feat at 3rd level.
Animal Companion (probably not necessary, as he can create any companion he wants)
Improved Combat Style
Woodland Stride
Swift Tracker
Evasion
Combat Style Mastery
Camouflage
And a bunch of things as 13th-level druid:
Animal Companion (same as ranger)
Nature Sense (Ex): A druid gains a +2 bonus on Knowledge (nature) and Survival checks.
Wild Empathy (same as ranger)
Woodland Stride (same as ranger)
Trackless Step
Resist Nature’s Lure
Wild Shape
Venom Immunity (Ex): At 9th level, a druid gains immunity to all poisons.
A Thousand Faces (Su): At 13th level, a druid gains the ability to change her appearance at will, as if using the alter self spell, but only while in her normal form.
And as 10th-level bard:
Bardic Knowledge
Bardic Music: Countersong, Fascinate, Inspire Courage, Inspire Competence, Suggestion, Inspire Greatness
And as a 10th-level rogue:
Sneak Attack: +5d6
Trapfinding
Evasion (same as ranger)
Trap Sense
Uncanny Dodge
Improved Uncanny Dodge
Special Abilities (1)
And turning undead as a 13th-level cleric.
Lots of stuff.
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Shade
Monster Junkie
Here's what I'd keep...
Beyond the spellcasting, I like these abilities since they could be attributed to "foresight". Trap detection would work too, but seems like it would never come up in-game.
- Spellcasting ability of 13th level cleric and 15th level wizard.
- Improved Evasion
- Opportunist
- Improved Uncanny Dodge
Beyond the spellcasting, I like these abilities since they could be attributed to "foresight". Trap detection would work too, but seems like it would never come up in-game.
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