Converting the Dukes of Hell

[Shade]

Common Spell-Like Abilities

All have...
At will—dispel magic/greater dispel magic, greater teleport;

Most have:
At will—charm monster, major image, see invisibility/true seeing, suggestion, wall of fire;

Many have:
At will—fireball, wall of fire;
Unholy aura (3/day or 1/day)

Others used more than once: dominate person, dominate monster, fire storm, geas/quest, hellfire storm, hold monster, locate creature, locate object, meteor swarm, polymorph, scrying/greater scrying, unholy blight

 

[Shade]

interesting! the other bolded ones make sense, but i'm not so sure i get this one.

Nor do I, since many can fly. :\

Ironically, Mammon, Baalzebul, and Dispater, who all cannot fly, lack the skill.

 

[Aspect of BOZ]

well, i can certainly see why Mammon and Baalzebul don't jump - given their anatomy - maybe Dispater is too dignified to jump.

oh well, whatever, we can assume that anyone with an anatomy suited to Jumping would probably take the skill.

 

[Shade]

well, i can certainly see why Mammon and Baalzebul don't jump - given their anatomy - maybe Dispater is too dignified to jump.

oh well, whatever, we can assume that anyone with an anatomy suited to Jumping would probably take the skill.

I'd vote that if they have a flight speed, and we need ranks elsewhere, that's the first place that gets cut.

 

[BOZ]

that's no problem for me. really, i'm not concerned about Jump at all - if you like, we can just reserve it for those whom it would seem to make the most sense.

 

[Shade]

Cool. Anything else we need before we begin?

 

[BOZ]

to finish at least the bloodsipper.

 

[Knight Otu]

Nor do I, since many can fly. :\

Ironically, Mammon, Baalzebul, and Dispater, who all cannot fly, lack the skill.

Maybe it's for the headstart? I seem to recall that the Dragonlance book had a rule to that effect (and I seem to recall that wingspan may be an issue for some fiends, too). However, Jump is usually a good skill to cut for flyers, as most people won't bother with having them jump.

 

[Gothenem]

Just a thought. What do the Jump checks look like without the +4 bonus per 10 feet of land speed? Was that already taken into account. Also, Jump may have Tumble synergy

 

[Shade]

Just a thought. What do the Jump checks look like without the +4 bonus per 10 feet of land speed? Was that already taken into account. Also, Jump may have Tumble synergy

I checked that, hoping it was the case, but most weren't particularly speedy on land, and few had ranks in Tumble.