D&D 5E (2014) Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

[Rocker26a]

Level 3: Ranger Lord
Whenever you make a Charisma roll, you gain a bonus to the check equal to your Wisdom modifier (minimum of +1).
Whenever you make a Dexterity roll, you gain a bonus to the check equal to your Strength modifier (minimum of +1).

Possible for a subclass

Doesn't not work, but I'd sooner it not be a subclass ability at all. And my personal homebrew levelling table is already a bit packed.
If I was considering where it (or something like it) could go for the 5E Ranger... I guess it could swap out Canny in Deft Explorer. Or be an additional option you can choose with Deft Explorer, if using the original UA set-up. "Pick one of these at 1st, 6th and 10th level", like.

 

[CreamCloud0]

Doesn't not work, but I'd sooner it not be a subclass ability at all. And my personal homebrew levelling table is already a bit packed.
If I was considering where it (or something like it) could go for the 5E Ranger... I guess it could swap out Canny in Deft Explorer. Or be an additional option you can choose with Deft Explorer, if using the original UA set-up. "Pick one of these at 1st, 6th and 10th level", like.

i like the expertise in canny but the extra languages are a bit meh, i might replace them with tool proficiencies, especially in '24 given tools seem to have more use.

 

[Rocker26a]

i like the expertise in canny but the extra languages are a bit meh, i might replace them with tool proficiencies, especially in '24 given tools seem to have more use.

See I'm biased because I like the idea of Ranger just getting an actual Expertise feature. Somewhere between Rogues and Bards. Got every food group for experts then, non-caster, half-caster, full caster. I forget if they got one in 2024.

 

[Horwath]

No, it’s too late for that. But it could (should?) have been ‘it’ from the start.

only without Concentration.

 

[CreamCloud0]

See I'm biased because I like the idea of Ranger just getting an actual Expertise feature. Somewhere between Rogues and Bards. Got every food group for experts then, non-caster, half-caster, full caster. I forget if they got one in 2024.

in '24 it straight up is expertise they gain with level 2 deft explorer feature (pushed back one level from '14), and they get two more at, 9th level i think it is? for a total of three expertise unless i missed something.

 

[Laurefindel]

only without Concentration.

Yes.

I’m not necessarily saying Hunter’s Mark used as 2014 RaW, but I think the ranger should have been the ‘marks’ class in the same way the paladin was the ‘smites’ class.

 

[môrgondír]

Yes.

I’m not necessarily saying Hunter’s Mark used as 2014 RaW, but I think the ranger should have been the ‘marks’ class in the same way the paladin was the ‘smites’ class.

I'm not familiar with the expression "'marks' class" and "'smites' class" - is that just colloquial for the classes that do those actions/have those features? (I have no knowledge of 2014, only 2024).

 

[Minigiant]

Yes.

I’m not necessarily saying Hunter’s Mark used as 2014 RaW, but I think the ranger should have been the ‘marks’ class in the same way the paladin was the ‘smites’ class.

Paladin- Smites
Ranger - Marks
Swordmage- Aegises
Ardent- Mantles