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Plus, the whole point of the picard maneuver was that the defending vessel didn't know which image to target. What's to say that an Executor can't just target both images thoroughly anyway?
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The point is that the Executor's sensors are slower than light, and the Enterprise (in setting up a Picard Maneuver) is faster than light (or if you don't like tight timing and close range shots, you just circle the star destroyer on a slightly randomized course at warp and fire off photon torpedoes all day). It's much easier to transition from warp / normal space in Star Trek than form hyperspace / normal space in Star Wars, and there are ways to affect normal space from warp, while there are not ways to affect normal space from hyperspace.
Relique du Madde
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Darth Vader's Player: "I use the force to determine where the enterprise will appear in 10 seconds."
Darth Vader: "Concentrate all fire at coordinate 40.300.50 NOW!!"
Solution: Light Speed vs the Force. The force is detected faster then light. Therefore anyone battling a Jedi or Sith controlled Star Destroyer will loose using the Picard Maneuver*.
*Note: I'm not even mentioning the fact that Star Wars is BILLIONS of years into the future, meaning their tech should be "magical" compaired to the 25th century. Also remember, the Data Defense (detecting gas compression/dispersion caused by the Ship's change in location and then locking on it with your tractor/repulsor beams and going to town) is a valid solution to the Picard Maneuver.
Darth Vader's Player: "I use the force to determine where the enterprise will appear in 10 seconds."
Darth Vader: "Concentrate all fire at coordinate 40.300.50 NOW!!"
Solution: Light Speed vs the Force. The force is detected faster then light. Therefore anyone battling a Jedi or Sith controlled Star Destroyer will loose using the Picard Maneuver*.
*Note: I'm not even mentioning the fact that Star Wars is BILLIONS of years into the future, meaning their tech should be "magical" compaired to the 25th century. Also remember, the Data Defense (detecting gas compression/dispersion caused by the Ship's change in location and then locking on it with your tractor/repulsor beams and going to town) is a valid solution to the Picard Maneuver.
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Rune
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One thing that bothers me about the maneuver is that the timing that would be required to pop in and out of warp so quickly would be impossible for humans to achieve. Data could do it (probably) but he certainly wasn't aboard the Stargazer when the maneuver was first conceived.
Well, it gets used in one episode - the one in which it is mentioned.
It doesn't get used at other times because it won't work on most ships in the Trek Universe. Subspace sensors defeat the maneuver, and Star Wars ships don't have them, because they don't use subspace.
That is an important point that in my haste I forgot - phasers only work if the firing ship drops out of warp. But, photon torpedoes (and quantum torpedoes, though those aren't part of the Enterprise's normal compliment) can travel for short distances at warp - meaning the Enterprise can lay into a Star Destroyer without ever slowing down.
Bullgrit
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For what it's worth, Ultimate Hulk ripped Ultimate Wolverine in half. And since Hulk and Superman are usually in the same ballpark of super-strength whenever depicted, you could argue that Superman would likewise have the ability to dismember Wolverine. But, then again, in standard superhero comics, everything runs on Popularity Power and Narrativism rather than logic or physics.
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