Could Wolverine kill Superman?

[Khaibit]

Considering how many times a day my 8 yr old asks me 'Can X beat Y' or 'Which is stronger/faster/taller/etc', I should be an expert at answering these questions. However the only skills/powers I can manifest with these questions anymore is Migraine (Level 2) and Create Diversion (Level 3).

 

[megamania]

As always.... when company is producing the book?


Wolvie wins-
Wolverine has been ordered to kill a powerful alien that is believed to be a threat to both Canada and the world in general. Department H sends him out. Supes has a quick encounter. He is amazed that the claws scratch him but do little more than that. Wolvie is beyond amazed and goes into a beserker rage which results in his being burned alive by heat vision. Supes leaves thinking that is done and wondering whom put metal into a man like this. next day, fully healed, scent memorized, Wolvie hunts him down as Clark Kent. Attacks him. Secret ID revealed as the attack fails to harm him beyond his ID being revealed. Once more Wolvie is forced to rely on his healing to recover from serioes injury. Department H takes a month or two off to study this hardy alien and learns a few things. Magic and Kryptonite. They imbed the radiative rock into wolverine whom attacks him once more. It becomes a contest of healing factor vs limited sun healing as the claws rip and tear into Superman. The world is appauled by the battle. In a heroic moment, Superman saves the pesky reporter Lois Lane by takes a shot in the chest and "dies".
After a months of several "new" superman titles come out, he returns and the hunter becomes the hunted.

Superman wins-
Supes won't kill. many battles like above but always where wolvie returns. Then Doomsday enters and well... Wolvie leaves as much of himself on the floor as on his bones. Eventually his healing factor is over taxed and even with Superman trying to save him he dies.


If this doesn't work, think of the craziness of Scarlet Witch, Doctor Strange, Batman or Lobo being involved.

 

[Umbran]

For what it's worth, Ultimate Hulk ripped Ultimate Wolverine in half.

That's a different thing, though. Wolverine has adamantium-laced bones. He doesn't have adamantium laced tendons and ligaments, so he can be dismembered or ripped apart by dislocating joints. That doesn't answer the question of whether his bones can be broken.

To reduce the question to a more pure form - can Superman put his fist through (or otherwise break) Captain America's shield?

 

[Morrus]

It doesn't get used at other times because it won't work on most ships in the Trek Universe. Subspace sensors defeat the maneuver, and Star Wars ships don't have them, because they don't use subspace.

Nah, they use hyperspace! They're so fast, they use a parsec as a measure of time!

Star Wars ships can cross a galaxy in a day or two. The Voyager needed, what, 800 years?

 

[Morrus]

*Note: I'm not even mentioning the fact that Star Wars is BILLIONS of years into the future.

Someone misread the Star Wars opening crawl!

 

[Umbran]

Star Wars ships can cross a galaxy in a day or two. The Voyager needed, what, 800 years?

Yes, but that's a strategic advantage, not a tactical one. It tells you how quickly the Empire can marshal forces from across the galaxy, but not how well those ships will do in combat once they've reached the target.

 

[drothgery]

Yes, but that's a strategic advantage, not a tactical one. It tells you how quickly the Empire can marshal forces from across the galaxy, but not how well those ships will do in combat once they've reached the target.

Also, as it's a galaxy far, far away, I'm going to declare that because it would create much more internal consistency except with Really Big Numbers in EU works, the Star Wars galaxy is very, very small (for a galaxy; the ~1000 light-year radius centered on earth that the Honor Harrington universe lives in has plenty of room for thousands of inhabited worlds, but is a very small part of the Milky Way).

 

[Relique du Madde]

Someone misread the Star Wars opening crawl!

Semantics.


If you were to be magically teliported to any civilized planet in the Star Wars galaxy that is controlled by the Rebel Alliance/Republic/Empire and looked past the anachronistic elements there is no way in hell you would think "I'm in the totally in the thousands/millions/billions of years in past."

Placing the series in the past and in an other galaxy is a plot device to differentiate it from Star Trek which has people from earth and 300 years into the future.

 

[billd91]

All Star Trek vs Star Wars questions are ultimately paradoxical. Think of them as zen koans. The redshirts from Star Trek are nearly always killed. The stormtroopers from Star Wars nearly always miss. It's the impotent force vs the unstable object.

 

[Dyir]

That's a different thing, though. Wolverine has adamantium-laced bones. He doesn't have adamantium laced tendons and ligaments, so he can be dismembered or ripped apart by dislocating joints. That doesn't answer the question of whether his bones can be broken.

To reduce the question to a more pure form - can Superman put his fist through (or otherwise break) Captain America's shield?

Well, upon consideration, once upon a time Magneto ripped the adamantium off of Wolverine's bones. Now Mags is definitely a top-tier super-villain, but I'm not sure I'd put his ability to produce the force necessary to accomplish that feat beyond what Superman could theoretically produce. Again, both are highly dependent upon the writer/story, since the capabilities of superheroes doesn't always adhere to logic.

As far as Cap's shield...probably not. According to Wikipedia, the only times the shield has been destroyed it was caused by some of the most powerful beings in the Marvel Universe. So Mister Mxyzptlk could, but probably not Superman (unless some writer put him on a major power-trip).