Cubicle 7 Also Announces A New 'C7d20' System

Joining Paizo (which has hinted at plans to update Pathfinder), Kobold Press (with it's Black Flag project), MCDM (which is working on a new game), and--of course--Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition (which was released last year), Cubicle 7 has announced a new C7d20 System.

You heard it here first! C7d20, our brand new system, is in development. Building on the great d20 games we know and love, our system will offer all the exciting action-packed adventures players expect from a d20 fantasy game, as well as the broader styles of gaming that we’ve brought to 5e in Doctors and Daleks, Adventures in Middle-earth, and Uncharted Journeys.

C7d20 will be a complete rule set that is compatible with 5e — you’ll be able to use all of your favourite 5e books and supplements, including Uncharted Journeys and Broken Weave. A core rulebook for C7d20 will launch later this year and you’ll be able to see hints of what is to come when Broken Weave launches. We’re involved in discussions about open licensing and will have more news on this as the situation develops.

 

[Olaf the Stout]

WotC have done a really good job of getting all the major 3rd party producers for D&D to either band together against them or shift to their own system in record time. And all for the low, low cost of all their community goodwill and zero new revenue.

Great work WotC execs!

 

[CleverNickName]

Eventually they're gonna run out of acronyms and combinations, and just resort to mashing homerow on their keyboards.

"GameCompany Announces New Open-Source Game License, The ASFDJKL;!"

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Eventually they're gonna run out of acronyms and combinations, and just resort to mashing homerow on their keyboards.

"GameCompany Announces New Open-Source Game License, The ASFDJKL;!"

May I recommend the Backronym Generator? A million government agencies can't be wrong.

Well, they can. But not about this.

 

[Jaeger]

WotC have done a really good job of getting all the major 3rd party producers for D&D to either band together against them or shift to their own system in record time. And all for the low, low cost of all their community goodwill and zero new revenue.

Great work WotC execs!

Wotzi has utterly surprised me, and have seemingly waived the white flag:

OGL 1.0a & Creative Commons

Over the past few weeks you, the community, have made your voices heard. And we’ve listened. OGL 1.0a will remain untouched AND the entire SRD 5.1...

www.dndbeyond.com

The question now seems: Do these 3pp stick to their guns?

 

[CleverNickName]

Creating a superior game system and convincing people to play it are two separate tasks. And doing one does not guarantee the other.

EDIT: Well then. Looks like WotC has backed down. Thanks for the good news, @Jaeger!

OGL 1.0a & Creative Commons

Over the past few weeks you, the community, have made your voices heard. And we’ve listened. OGL 1.0a will remain untouched AND the entire SRD 5.1...

www.dndbeyond.com

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

The question now seems: Do these 3pp stick to their guns?

It probably takes away the urgency, but having their own licenses makes too much sense to abandon. Their own game systems -- beyond having an SRD they control -- is probably a much lower priority than it was two hours ago.

 

[GDGD]

Wotzi has utterly surprised me, and have seemingly waived the white flag:

OGL 1.0a & Creative Commons

Over the past few weeks you, the community, have made your voices heard. And we’ve listened. OGL 1.0a will remain untouched AND the entire SRD 5.1...

www.dndbeyond.com

The question now seems: Do these 3pp stick to their guns?

I'm astounded. Like, astonished.

 

[Emmetation]

Super glad we timed this announcement for today

 

[CleverNickName]

These live survey results are clear. You want OGL 1.0a. You want irrevocability. You like Creative Commons.

The feedback is in such high volume and its direction is so plain that we're acting now.

We are leaving OGL 1.0a in place, as is. Untouched.
We are also making the entire SRD 5.1 available under a Creative Commons license.
You choose which you prefer to use.

This Creative Commons license makes the content freely available for any use. We don't control that license and cannot alter or revoke it. It's open and irrevocable in a way that doesn't require you to take our word for it. And its openness means there's no need for a VTT policy. Placing the SRD under a Creative Commons license is a one-way door. There's no going back.

Yep, that's pretty cut-and-dry. Looks like we're getting exactly what we wanted!

(Except the people who wanted WotC to go bankrupt or whatever, that's probably not happening anytime soon.)

 

[EthanSental]

This discussion is focused on 5e compatible rules….not a new rules set and not one on PF2. I’m kinda missing the point of ORC as far as the design intent…which considering the WoTC related news, my interest in this is lower going forward is about as low as it can go.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

This discussion is focused on 5e compatible rules….not a new rules set and not one on PF2. I’m kinda missing the point of ORC as far as the design intent…which considering the WoTC related news, my interest in this is lower going forward is about as low as it can go.

That's because ORC isn't a design. It's a license.

The SRDs released through ORC will have the designs.

You are frustrated that a frying pan is a terrible houseplant. They're two completely different things.

 

[Dungeonosophy]

Yep, that's pretty cut-and-dry. Looks like we're getting exactly what we wanted!

Speak for yourself. ("We"?)

OGL - Umbran asked what actions would it take for WOTC to 'make it right' for me. Here ya go!...

In other threads, folks (such as moderator @Umbran) have asked those, such as I, who are embarking on a lifetime boycott of WOTC/Ha$bro products: exactly what actions would it take from WOTC in order to 'make it right,' and thus for me to continue as a patron of D&D-branded products. That is a...

www.enworld.org

 

[CleverNickName]

Speak for yourself. ("We"?)

OGL - Umbran asked what actions would it take for WOTC to 'make it right' for me. Here ya go!...

In other threads, folks (such as moderator @Umbran) have asked those, such as I, who are embarking on a lifetime boycott of WOTC/Ha$bro products: exactly what actions would it take from WOTC in order to 'make it right,' and thus for me to continue as a patron of D&D-branded products. That is a...

www.enworld.org

Well yeah, of course I'm speaking for myself (and my gaming group). There's people out there who aren't going to be satisfied with this. Heck, some folks won't be satisfied with anything that Wizards of the Coast does, ever, if only because Wizards of the Coast is the one doing it.

The requests for multiple edition-specific SRDs, DM's Guild content, etc., were never really on the table to begin with. They'd be nice to have, sure, but they were clearly beyond the scope of this particular issue. This is an incredible win.

 

[Dungeonosophy]

The requests for multiple edition-specific SRDs, DM's Guild content, etc., were never really on the table to begin with. They'd be nice to have, sure, but they were clearly beyond the scope of this particular issue.

They are beyond the scope of the technical issue of the OGL debacle, but there's also the issue of real mistrust and distaste of Wizards/Hasbro.

Yep, I've happily moved on to A5E and other 3PP. See ya WOTC!

But yeah, if WOTC/Hasbro literally did all eight of amendatory actions I outlined, then I would be ethically impelled to reconsider my lifetime boycott.

Well, WOTC knows where to find me! hehe

 

[mach1.9pants]

I'm guessing 5e will become a lot like OSR/OS DND, all pretty much compatible with a little tweaking, which is awesome

 

[Tbiafore]

Looking forward to Black Flag!

 

[overgeeked]

I am chuckling because Free League is currently beta testing a new rules light BRP/Y0 game and there is vocal gamers who are already demanding more complexity.

For some, "heavier game mechanics" will never be truly well covered.

Some people just want a rule for everything. Some want a whole game system on a 3x5 card.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

Between the excellent work C7 did on AiME, when they had the Tolkein sub-license, and on Doctors & Daleks, this may be the winner for me. I only have the time, energy and money to mess with one system right now, so if not 1st party D&D, then this will be good. Now I just need to hear what the Esper Genesis people may do, if they even need to do anything.

 

[Knightfall]

"C7d20," when vocalized, sounds very much like "C-70-20."

Johnathan

This is not the droid you're looking for.

 

[Teo Twawki]

The word ‘balkanization’ is an inherently negative word, with connotations of ethnic state warfare and ethnic-based expulsions.

Cleansing, it was called thirty years ago.

I will leave it as an exercise for the reader to determine if this is offensive.

Sarajevan reader here. I find the use of the term not offensive, but highly problematic. It was coined to be incredibly pejorative by cultures with long histories of colonization through cultural hegemony. Other words could be used to better effect and with less ideological baggage. And that term carries a world war and several genocides in its luggage.

Personally, I'm not in favor of hindering the use of any language, just the education and self-awareness of its use. I'll have to put this word on the list to discuss in a graduate class I'm guest lecturing in this semester about cultural referencing and cross-cultural depictions. A few phrases, a novel and it's film adaptation, a couple of songs, and some rpg material are on the docket.

EDIT:
Use of the term in this context suggested either/both: many small game companies are being manipulated by greater ones in hope and expectation that the smaller ones conflict and slaughter each other so as to ignore bigger problems and/or the problems created by the OGL have created a situation so bad as to be comparable to a region subjected to colonization and the birthplace of the phrase ethnic cleansing (thanks, Ustaše). Neither of these things are likely the user's intended meaning of this term as metaphor (at least, I hope not; I don't wanna fight another war ). To use only one comparison, it's akin to someone claiming they work for slave wages (which would be, by definition, nothing) and whatever job someone complains about, it is almost certainly not one that is done for the wages of almost any slave in history. In this example, a more meaningful hyperbole might be servant wages, which could very arguably be true depending on the particulars of the job; used in a sentence: "garçon, more coffee... the restaurant owner pays your servile wages and expects us to compensate you for an accurate and speedy job!" <=employee denigrated as a servant and must perform according to expectation to earn a barely-sustainable salary.