D&D General D&D 3.5 - splatbook power creep or no?

[Maxperson]

Well, at the very least they're a dirty, granola-chewing hippie.

My mind did that thing where you see both ends of a word and it fills the rest in for you and initially read that as grandpa-chewing hippie.

 

[DeadlyUematsu]

A word of advice: I had a similar discussion with Maxperson in another thread and I realized I was wasting time when it became apparent that my experience meant squat to them.

 

[Mecheon]

I'm talking about class niches, not power levels. If you have a wizard and a cleric casting Knock, Find Traps, etc. instead of letting the rogue do it, they're being douches. Power level is a completely different issue and is only broken if you feel that it is.

I played a ton of fighters and rogues along side wizards, druids and clerics, and not once did I feel left out or useless. That sort of thing is entirely a creation of your(general you) own mind.

It is a thread about power creep, though. Power level absolutely is part of the issue at hand. Niche protection doesn't do anything with the fact that the power levels of just the PHB alone are completely off base.

The later books add power, sure, but its absolutely needed for most of the classes, just due to the massive gap.

 

[TwoSix]

My mind did that thing where you see both ends of a word and it fills the rest in for you and initially read that as grandpa-chewing hippie.

Chewing up grandpa is what a Druid has to do to get to 13th level, according to Gygax.

 

[Maxperson]

It is a thread about power creep, though. Power level absolutely is part of the issue at hand. Niche protection doesn't do anything with the fact that the power levels of just the PHB alone are completely off base.

The later books add power, sure, but its absolutely needed for most of the classes, just due to the massive gap.

Yeah. There was a niche tangent, though, and that's what this particular discussion was addressing.