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Istbor

Dances with Gnolls
Think the Altamont Speedway incident proved that.
There were a few problems there. Least of which was having a biker gang be security.

Edit: Had to edit and add that, that is incredible Deset. I mean... when else are you suppose to close at premise schooling? When all your teachers and their subs are too sick or are quarantined? Just wow.

I mean... “We’ve had a good start of school,” Childress said. “We’re going to have some more positive cases. We know that. We know it will happen. We’re going to have to deal with it, and I can assure that we will deal with it and when we impose quarantines on students and staff, we are doing that for a reason.”

I am trying to recall a time I went to school where within a week 116 students were kept at home or got sick all at once. I am pretty sure if that happened, it wouldn't be business as usual. Then again, that was a different time, and to be fair, that would have been like a 6th of the schools' student body.

I just don't understand.
 
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Janx

Hero
Maybe its some sort of population control experiment?
It's weird the things that can and cannot be kept secret.

Just read about Wilmington's Lie. in 1898, a town had a racist coup, and for the longer part, they and revisionist history won.

But on the flip side, there's not likely an organized effort to release a virus and make lots of people die. It's more incompetence and assumption that most of the victims will be people who wouldn't vote for the leaders, so let it run amok.
 

It's weird the things that can and cannot be kept secret.

Just read about Wilmington's Lie. in 1898, a town had a racist coup, and for the longer part, they and revisionist history won.

But on the flip side, there's not likely an organized effort to release a virus and make lots of people die. It's more incompetence and assumption that most of the victims will be people who wouldn't vote for the leaders, so let it run amok.
Wilmington is the only place on American soil that we've ever had a coup d'etat, and it was because of racism.
116 students quarantined after cases reported when the Mississippi schools open up.


"“Just because you begin to have positive cases, that is not a reason for closing school,” Superintendent Lee Childress said in a Facebook Live broadcast on Tuesday on the school district’s Facebook page. "

YES IT IS! What the heck wrong with you?
Yeah. That's exactly the reason to close down the schools.
 

ccs

40th lv DM
It's weird the things that can and cannot be kept secret.

Just read about Wilmington's Lie. in 1898, a town had a racist coup, and for the longer part, they and revisionist history won.

But on the flip side, there's not likely an organized effort to release a virus and make lots of people die. It's more incompetence and assumption that most of the victims will be people who wouldn't vote for the leaders, so let it run amok.
No no, releasing the virus isn't the plan/experiment. That's just nature. Stuff happens.
The experiment I'm joking(?) about is allowing Sturgis to proceed as normal & seeing how many stupid people show up. They're expecting what, a quarter million attendees? More? Nothing will go wrong with this size of gathering.....
You draw in the stupid, you count them, then you track them & see how many get sick/die/survive. It's a mass Darwin's Award test. Thinning out the gene pool.

Ideally you'd round them all up before they could leave. Like a giant roach trap, but for stupid people. That won't happen though.

Language, please!
 
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Hussar

Legend
From the article said:
On Wednesday, Carmona reportedly announced over the intercom that any student found criticizing the school on social media could face disciplinary consequences, BuzzFeed reported.


Furthermore, in an email to the Associated Press, Paulding County Superintendent Brian Ottot said Tuesday, “Wearing a mask is a personal choice and there is no practical way to enforce a mandate to wear them” — despite having a very clear and enforceable dress code on the district’s website, which bars, among dozens of other style choices, “pants that touch the ground,” “sweatbands” and garments with “frayed ends.”
WTF? You cannot enforce a mask mandate? ARE YOU ")%#(%$(#' KIDDING ME? Schools are one of the few places where it is 100% acceptable to enforce mandates, like it or hate it.

Gotta love the juxtaposition here though. "If you exercise your First Amendment right to free speech, you will be punished" but, "While we can totally run roughshod over your rights, we cannot tell you what to wear".

headdesk**headdesk**headdesk
 



Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
You draw in the stupid, you count them, then you track them & see how many get sick/die/survive. It's a mass Darwin's Award test.
This fails one of the more basic conspiracy theory sniff tests - it requires the conspirators to be both competent geniuses, and incompetent fools.

They have to be competent and genius enough to identify and track a quarter million people from all over the nation.

They have to be complete idiots, because they fail the basic understanding that the overwhelming majority of deaths associated with the event will be people who didn't go to the event.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
WTF? You cannot enforce a mask mandate? ARE YOU ")%#(%$(#' KIDDING ME? Schools are one of the few places where it is 100% acceptable to enforce mandates, like it or hate it.
Yeah. The collective roar of every girl's eyes rolling upon hearing that, after being sent home for wearing spaghetti straps, the wrong hairstyle, or shorts that are above the knee, is deafening.
 

Dannyalcatraz

Schmoderator
Staff member
In one article about Sturgis, a city official was quoted as saying “we can’t just put up roadblocks.”

I’m thinking...how many roads in and out of Sturgis are there? I mean, most urbanized areas over a certain size do have the material & equipment to substan block ingress & egress.

And the schools that are doing all the handwringing about masks probably have a long history of suspending students for dress code violations...including for clothing expressing speech.
 


Yeah. The collective roar of every girl's eyes rolling upon hearing that, after being sent home for wearing spaghetti straps, the wrong hairstyle, or shorts that are above the knee, is deafening.
Yeah. Schools already have dress codes. Adding a mask to the dress code, which would protect the health of the general population, doesn't seem unreasonable when I've seen people sent home/have to be given something to change into for wearing something that only offends the eyes.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Yeah. Schools already have dress codes. Adding a mask to the dress code, which would protect the health of the general population, doesn't seem unreasonable when I've seen people sent home/have to be given something to change into for wearing something that only offends the eyes.
You know, thinking on this, there is a kind of logic...

1) People get bloody well shot in retail stores for trying to insist on masks. Is Mrs. Crabapple supposed to face down some covid-denier with an assault rifle for making little Johnny cover his mouth and nose?

2) Masks are excellent... for short, casual contact. Wear one in the grocery, or on the street, and you are unlikely to infect a passerby. This breaks down when you have people in an enclosed space, sharing air. Kids are in classrooms breathing each other's air for hours and hours - the mask isn't really going to save them.

3) Given 2, not enforcing masks gets them to have an outbreak quickly and the school shut back down, which might actually minimize the impact.
 

Cadence

Legend
Supporter
I'm wondering if, as the crisis goes on, if there are a number of people in health care, medicine, public health, biostatistics and the like who have started getting fed up with everything and are now posting full-throated conspiracy things... and their family or friends or colleagues are never going to be able to un-see it.
 
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1) People get bloody well shot in retail stores for trying to insist on masks. Is Mrs. Crabapple supposed to face down some covid-denier with an assault rifle for making little Johnny cover his mouth and nose?
If a mask could stop 2 people from getting infected (I'm not going by statistics here, just an example number), who could then infect more people, who would then infect more, until eventually people will die from your infecting these 2 people, someone being shot seems like a lower risk for death than coronavirus infection. It is horrifying that we have to compare these risks here in America. I've only seen a few examples of people being shot over mask-related problems.

Also, Covid-19 is contagious. Rage-induced shooting rampages don't seem to be.
2) Masks are excellent... for short, casual contact. Wear one in the grocery, or on the street, and you are unlikely to infect a passerby. This breaks down when you have people in an enclosed space, sharing air. Kids are in classrooms breathing each other's air for hours and hours - the mask isn't really going to save them.
Yeah, masks aren't great in those circumstances. This more illustrates the point that going back to school is a bad idea no matter what the safety measures are more than anything else. It reduces spread, and if the desks are far enough apart, it is more unlikely to spread the virus. I don't know if many (if any) schools will have those precautions.

Also, maybe if more people wear masks, more will jump on the bandwagon (hasn't seemed to work yet, but who know? Maybe if their kids have to wear masks, some people will start wearing masks?)
3) Given 2, not enforcing masks gets them to have an outbreak quickly and the school shut back down, which might actually minimize the impact.
Or it could lead to just a spread in Coronavirus if they don't close the school down. I don't think the people who are pushing for re-opening schools mid-pandemic will want to stop re-opening just because of an increase in cases. The current increase in cases hasn't done much to stop the opening up.
 

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