D&D and the rising pandemic

[Zardnaar]

Speaking of unfortunate facts of life. Turns out that not only it is very hard to get a vaccination certificate in my country, there is also a black market where they make counterfeit ones. Yikes, it is hard enough to get vaccinated and prove it while dealing with vaccine doubters and outright antivaxers. Now this very hard to get document is useless because of course the counterfeiters made it useless.

What took Mexico so long? You've been able to buy some real US ones on eBay months ago.

Just fill them in yourself.

 

[CapnZapp]

Sweden issues certificates with a QR code, so when the inspector scans it they're sent to the official online record. I'm sure it's possible to register fake entries, but at least it's more than a piece of paper and you're supposed to just take the signature as genuine. (What is it with the ass-backwards infatuation with easily-faked IDs and diplomas in the US? We're not living in the nineteenth century any more!)

If you ask me why the EU isn't having a standardized protocol I have no clue.

 

[Zardnaar]

Sweden issues certificates with a QR code, so when the inspector scans it they're sent to the official online record. I'm sure it's possible to register fake entries, but at least it's more than a piece of paper and you're supposed to just take the signature as genuine. (What is it with the ass-backwards infatuation with easily-faked IDs and diplomas in the US? We're not living in the nineteenth century any more!)

If you ask me why the EU isn't having a standardized protocol I have no clue.

Not a bad idea.

Won't be able to trust documents.

 

[MoonSong]

Sweden issues certificates with a QR code, so when the inspector scans it they're sent to the official online record. I'm sure it's possible to register fake entries, but at least it's more than a piece of paper and you're supposed to just take the signature as genuine. (What is it with the ass-backwards infatuation with easily-faked IDs and diplomas in the US? We're not living in the nineteenth century any more!)

If you ask me why the EU isn't having a standardized protocol I have no clue.

That's the problem, the fake ones pass even That test. They are indistinguishable from the real thing.

 

[CapnZapp]

That's the problem, the fake ones pass even That test. They are indistinguishable from the real thing.

Not sure how to reply.

If you are asserting you know for a fact Swedish "covidbevis.se" have been hacked already I appreciate it. It would be interesting to learn your source though.

Or perchance you completely missed the point? The looks of the document doesn't matter. The document and its QR code could be printed on toilet paper for all anyone's going to care. My whole point why I even brought it up is that US-style easily forged documents is 19th century tech and basically a joke.

I'm certainly not saying the style of certificate discussed here is bullet-proof but as far as I can tell we instead have a QR code (in your mobile, or on that roll of toilet paper) pointing the officer to an active online government database where the person's vaccination data can be validated, so you'd have to either inject false entries into the official database or spoof an entire site and just hope the officer can't be bothered to certify he's at the right site. Which is complicated by the fact the certificate is only valid for 90 days, then you need to update your document, which (again to the best of my knowledge) means data is pulled from the national health registry, an covid certification entry is created, and you're given a document whose QR code points to it for the benefit of, not you, but the customs officer in the country you're trying to enter.

 

[MoonSong]

Not sure how to reply.

If you are asserting you know for a fact Swedish "covidbevis.se" have been hacked already I appreciate it. It would be interesting to learn your source though.

Or perchance you completely missed the point? The looks of the document doesn't matter. The document and its QR code could be printed on toilet paper for all anyone's going to care. My whole point why I even brought it up is that US-style easily forged documents is 19th century tech and basically a joke.

I'm certainly not saying the style of certificate discussed here is bullet-proof but as far as I can tell we instead have a QR code (in your mobile, or on that roll of toilet paper) pointing the officer to an active online government database where the person's vaccination data can be validated, so you'd have to either inject false entries into the official database or spoof an entire site and just hope the officer can't be bothered to certify he's at the right site. Which is complicated by the fact the certificate is only valid for 90 days, then you need to update your document, which (again to the best of my knowledge) means data is pulled from the national health registry, an covid certification entry is created, and you're given a document whose QR code points to it for the benefit of, not you, but the customs officer in the country you're trying to enter.

I was talking about my country. We have the same kind of system, with a QR code that connects to a gov. database to verify authenticity. And the fake certificates do it too.

 

[CapnZapp]

I was talking about my country. We have the same kind of system, with a QR code that connects to a gov. database to verify authenticity. And the fake certificates do it too.

Got it.

 

[Zardnaar]

I was talking about my country. We have the same kind of system, with a QR code that connects to a gov. database to verify authenticity. And the fake certificates do it too.

What that means is countries where government databases are not secure will likely join lists of banned countries.

Our government had lists of red zone countries where you were not allowed to enter the country full stop unless you're a citizen.

I think Brazil, India and 3 other countries were on that list.

 

[J.Quondam]

Seems we've got not just fake covid certs, but also fake covid pills here in the US now.

Feds arrest CA homeopath for selling COVID pellets, fake CDC vaccine cards

Homeopath: “It is like an energy medicine… made from the disease particles themselves.”…

arstechnica.com

 

[Thomas Shey]

That had already happened before at least twice as I recall; its just not as big an issue here as some other places.