D&D and the rising pandemic

[Snarf Zagyg]

The trick feels like it would be to get pay like your area's, in a place like cost of living like my area's.... (well, trick for helping oneself).

...and that's what remote working is for ... supposedly.

Thing is, it doesn't work like that, does it? A lot of jobs can't be remote all the time. Or even some of the time.

And even if you are lucky enough to have one of those jobs, there is a reason that desirable places are desirable. Temperature, schools, beaches (or mountains/wildlife), proximity to culture ... those sorts of quality of life things.

Still, I think there will be an increasing number of people who take advantage of the lower-cost areas to live. I mean... at some point they have to, right?

(FWIW, this insane housing market has caused a lot of people to finally "cash in." Which means that we are losing a lot of the basic "services" that you need. Teachers, firefighters, police, waiters, retail workers? They need a place to live, too.)

 

[Maxperson]

Still, I think there will be an increasing number of people who take advantage of the lower-cost areas to live. I mean... at some point they have to, right?

We had a small vacation on Catalina for a few days last week and we were talking to a couple from Sacramento. The husband was saying the people are fleeing the high priced Bay area to buy homes in Sacramento now that they can work from home.

 

[Cadence]

New student convocation is on, bring your parents, pack the coliseum! (And don't worry, the state says we can't masks or immunizations).

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Follow up. A few hours after getting the e-mail about the new student convocation, this was part of the follow-up...

 

[Thomas Shey]

The fear is that the vaccines can cause something akin to zombi-ism, just Ike they think it did in the movie. Except…the movie is clear- the “zombies” were created by a bioengineered virus, not the vaccine mentioned in the movie.

Though it was created for a medical purpose; specifically as a cancer cure.

But that's still pretty worlds apart from what people are presenting it as.

(They're also more like rough and tumble vampires than zombies (no surprise given the book) but that's neither here nor there).

 

[Thomas Shey]

It didn't work so well for California. Their education system suffered badly after Prop 13.

A big part of that had to do with the fact it also applied to commercial property.

 

[Zardnaar]

...and that's what remote working is for ... supposedly.

Thing is, it doesn't work like that, does it? A lot of jobs can't be remote all the time. Or even some of the time.

And even if you are lucky enough to have one of those jobs, there is a reason that desirable places are desirable. Temperature, schools, beaches (or mountains/wildlife), proximity to culture ... those sorts of quality of life things.

Still, I think there will be an increasing number of people who take advantage of the lower-cost areas to live. I mean... at some point they have to, right?

(FWIW, this insane housing market has caused a lot of people to finally "cash in." Which means that we are losing a lot of the basic "services" that you need. Teachers, firefighters, police, waiters, retail workers? They need a place to live, too.)

Similar thing here. The nurses, teachers etc get paid the same regardless of where they live. So if you're over the age of say 35 and live in a small town and bought a decade+ ago you're all good.

If not you're kinda screwed although DINK (double income no kids) might pull it off in a smaller town.

A friend and his sister bought there own houses but mum and dad had to act as guarantors. He went from his parents place in one of our best suburbs to living in one of the worst.

Nice enough house and the suburb wasn't that bad but his friend on similar income without the bank of mum and dad is screwed.

We did it without bank of mum and dad by virtue of being born earlier. If you did everything right around age 32 is the last time you could do it yourself without parental help although I'm sure exceptions exist.

And by doing everything right decent job out of school or uni DINK by age 22 and save like hell.

In reality it's more like age 35 or 40.

New middle class has pets most rentals now no pets.

 

[Zardnaar]

One of the cheapest places in the country.

The sad price of New Zealand's soaring housing market

Homes are being snapped up after less than a week on the market in Kaikohe, driving out families who were renting, and sometimes have nowhere else to go.

www.rnz.co.nz

Avg income $19000 ($13-14k) half minimum wage. Translation welfare. Population 4000.

Avg price 291000 around $200k usd.

14 years average income ratio. And that's pretty much the cheapest one can find.

 

[J.Quondam]

One of the cheapest places in the country.

The sad price of New Zealand's soaring housing market

Homes are being snapped up after less than a week on the market in Kaikohe, driving out families who were renting, and sometimes have nowhere else to go.

www.rnz.co.nz

Avg income $19000 ($13-14k) half minimum wage. Translation welfare. Population 4000.

Avg price 291000 around $200k usd.

14 years average income ratio. And that's pretty much the cheapest one can find.

What about rents? Are they tracking upward with prices, or are those getting unaffordable, too?

 

[Eltab]

It didn't work so well for California. Their education system suffered badly after Prop 13.

Ooh, an opportunity to discuss politics!

I'll content myself with the observation that US schools are among the most highly-funded in the world - but every dollar of school tax goes through many hoops and siphons before some pennies and nickles reach the classroom.

 

[Zardnaar]

What about rents? Are they tracking upward with prices, or are those getting unaffordable, too?

Rents have exploded assuming you can find one. First home buys are competing with investors competing with the government competing with Airbnb.

Net result is less rentals.

Also depends where you live but if you can find a rental you're paying through the nose for it.

Only way to get cheap rent.

1. Mates rates/bank of mum and dad.

2. Old rental agreements with kind landlord.

3. Erm subsidizing rent in erm kind which is apparently happening.