D&D and the rising pandemic

While I appreciate the good intentions, I think there are very few times in history where "relocating the undesirables" like this has ended well.
It feels like even while some cities were leveling property that they still had people without homes. And if you have refugees or large numbers immigrating for safety concerns, they need a place somewhere. (The "start" was in my post because obviously a lot more than just a house is needed, but it feels potentially better than a tent city, for example. Without extra support we do have plenty of examples of how public housing can be done really badly though).
 

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Is it Italy where some towns are paying people to move there and live in (nearly) free property?

A few years ago were some cities in the Midwestern US buying up blocks of vacant housing and turning it in to green space?

Feels like there could be something that would be a start to helping the homeless or folks at the borders if there are a lot of empty houses...
A couple of years ago there was a town in either New Brunswick or Nova Scotia, Canada, that was offering free homes to people who relocated there, if they met certain criteria.

I'm with Deset Gled on the "relocating the undesirables" thing. Integrating people into existing communities seems to work far better at elevating people out of poverty. Creating artificial communities like that tends to result in engineered slums. For use as interim housing? Sure, but not as a long term solution.
 

A couple of years ago there was a town in either New Brunswick or Nova Scotia, Canada, that was offering free homes to people who relocated there, if they met certain criteria.

I'm with Deset Gled on the "relocating the undesirables" thing. Integrating people into existing communities seems to work far better at elevating people out of poverty. Creating artificial communities like that tends to result in engineered slums. For use as interim housing? Sure, but not as a long term solution.

No argument against that.

It feels like the people who need the most support need the best locations in terms of being close to lots of opportunities and services. Which means the places for them to live are competing with the folks with lots of $. I'm not sure how to fix that without burning the entire system down.

I don't think most places would even be happy with legal requirements for every neighborhood to have a certain percent of affordable/subsidized housing. And if they were, a lot of that housing won't be close to where the people who could use it are or want to be (as suburbs without a ton of jobs nearby or in states hundreds of miles away).
 


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Reminds me that I need to write a letter to my state, county, and city reps about considering different zoning/tax classifications to head some of this off locally.

I just wish there was a nice way to balance the desire to have affordable housing for purchases by families, the need for some rental houses for families, and the need for some people to rent a house in the short term (newly inherited, etc...), with everything else.
 

Yeah, me too. But a very wise person once said:
I'm not sure how to fix that without burning the entire system down.
I find myself agreeing. I mean, I understand all the competing interests: tenants, landlords, home owners, homeless, debtors, creditors. It's not a tidy situation, and while I'd love to see everyone integrated into the system in a legitimate way, I also don't want to see anyone doing okay ending up shafted. (Well, except the predatory ubercapitalist institutions for which a "home" is just a figure on a ledger, instead of a biological necessity for human beings. Those profiteers can go [censored].)
There's just too much inequality right now and no clear way to correct it.
 

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That’s a small tangent off of what I was talking about earlier- the venture capital companies buying up houses to make rental properties. At least Zillow, et alia are putting the homes back on the SALE market, not retaining them as rentals.
 

That’s a small tangent off of what I was talking about earlier- the venture capital companies buying up houses to make rental properties. At least Zillow, et alia are putting the homes back on the SALE market, not retaining them as rentals.
Yeah, for the time being. Done right, this approach could really simplify homebuying, especially for people new to the market or who want a really streamlined process.

BUT... that streamlining works across the board. One especially soulless quote from that article was this:
That would be welcome news for people like Alex Villacorta, the co-founder and chief data officer of ResiShares, an investment management company focused on residential real estate. “If they can get enough inventory flow, they’ll end up being a marketplace for investors,” said Villacorta. “We would be more than happy to buy in bulk off of them.”
“We can take 100 here, 50 there, 25 there and build out a portfolio basically overnight,” Villacorta continued. “I can see a world where there’s a lot more institutional buying out there and if you're in that space, you’re probably working with Zillow.”
"Inventory flow." "Portfolio." The bulk realestate "space." And exactly zero regard for housing as "homes" for real human beings. It's just straight-up profit potential. If these investment institutions start offering Zillow, et al, more money than regular buyers, there's no way Zillow, et al, won't be all over that.
The vultures are already licking their chops over this.
 

There's just too much inequality right now and no clear way to correct it.
Well…there’s lots of ideas, some of which have gotten tested in the real world. But a lot of them- even when proven to be effective or at least better than the current situations- run afoul of powerful people’s self-interests, widely held beliefs about poverty and people work ethics, misconceptions about who actually needs what, actual costs, and so forth.

To illustrate just one aspect: I've mentioned Dad is an MD. He’s done well, financially. Contrary to what many would expect, he actually wishes we had a single payer system because a lot of the current regime in the USA involves insurance companies paying him less than his services cost him. Sometimes not at all. And because of the tax laws, he cannot write off “bad debt” on his taxes like other businesses can. This means that there are certain patients he could be helping that he can’t afford to. And it’s not just his specialty, either- the MDs who performed life saving procedures on his mother a few years ago were literally compensated 10¢ on the dollar, with no recourse for any other compensation from other sources. How many of us could stay in business if you were only paid at a 90% discount?
 
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Is it Italy where some towns are paying people to move there and live in (nearly) free property?
They were paying people mostly in the sense that if you bought one of these houses you would be exempt from local property taxes for a number of years, and the houses could be bought for few euros but none of these were in livable conditions, so you would need to spend tens of thousands of euros in renovation. These houses are usually in the poorer parts of the country, where for generations people had been leaving to look for work elsewhere, leaving a lot of properties to basically crumble. The goal of these plans is mainly to attract (foreign) tourists who can afford a vacation home in the hopes of boosting the local economy and allowing local people to find jobs without having to emigrate.
 

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