D&D and the rising pandemic

[MarkB]

Of course it helps if you can get to a window.

And, of course, two people looking out of windows in two different places might get different results. The one in an overcast area will see a different colour than the one on a clear day.

 

[billd91]

And, of course, two people looking out of windows in two different places might get different results. The one in an overcast area will see a different colour than the one on a clear day.

And then there’s partly cloudy ambiguity. “Well, it looks kinda blue-gray.”

 

[Ryujin]

And then there's the debate about confusing one thing (sky) with a feature of that thing (clouds).

 

[MarkB]

And then there's the debate about confusing one thing (sky) with a feature of that thing (clouds).

Can't see the sky for the clouds. All too often the case here in England.

 

[Hussar]

Really, the conspiracy stuff has been bubbling up for about a decade now. Remember when we had conspiracies about the US president's nationality? People actually believe that. How many investigations of Hillary Clinton that turn up nothing and we still get sizable numbers of "Lock Her Up" and "I just don't trust her" even today. Anti-vaxxing that is based on science that has been long debunked.

Thing is, it doesn't matter how much proof you bring to the table. It doesn't matter how rational your arguments are. People are predisposed to believing stuff and poking holes in that is like trying to stick pins in concrete.

We've had decades of the erosion of public trust in science, expertise has been treated as clueless elitism. And this has been going on since the 80's. It's not really surprising, in hindsight, to see how much of an impact this has had.

 

[Zardnaar]

Really, the conspiracy stuff has been bubbling up for about a decade now. Remember when we had conspiracies about the US president's nationality? People actually believe that. How many investigations of Hillary Clinton that turn up nothing and we still get sizable numbers of "Lock Her Up" and "I just don't trust her" even today. Anti-vaxxing that is based on science that has been long debunked.

Thing is, it doesn't matter how much proof you bring to the table. It doesn't matter how rational your arguments are. People are predisposed to believing stuff and poking holes in that is like trying to stick pins in concrete.

We've had decades of the erosion of public trust in science, expertise has been treated as clueless elitism. And this has been going on since the 80's. It's not really surprising, in hindsight, to see how much of an impact this has had.

It's the interwebs. Basically you can't use facts on people's beliefs. In extreme cases even if they can see what's going on with their own eyes.

Getting that South African and English variety in qurantine now.

Covid-19: UK variant raises risk of community transmission - Baker

As expected. Still using the Covid app but we're basically role playing the old normal for the most part.

Trying to talk the family into trying something new for the camping trip. No tourists as such.

 

[Umbran]

Remember when we had conspiracies about the US president's nationality? People actually believe that.

Some do, and others don't.

You cannot awaken someone who is not asleep - a great many knew full well that it was false, but repeated the narrative because it served their purposes. Repeating that narrative means that most normal folks feel the need to dispute the facts. But the person knows it is a lie, so the facts were not relevant, making it largely invulnerable armor.

You cannot reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - the people who did believe that, despite evidence, are holding that position because it resonates with their fears or preferred worldview. You cannot address their position without approaching the emotional underpinnings. And you generally cannot do that with a stranger.

 

[Garthanos]

The foundations of science fear ummm never mind it branches out of what polite company wants to discuss/cover.

 

[Janx]

Some do, and others don't.

You cannot awaken someone who is not asleep - a great many knew full well that it was false, but repeated the narrative because it served their purposes. Repeating that narrative means that most normal folks feel the need to dispute the facts. But the person knows it is a lie, so the facts were not relevant, making it largely invulnerable armor.

You cannot reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - the people who did believe that, despite evidence, are holding that position because it resonates with their fears or preferred worldview. You cannot address their position without approaching the emotional underpinnings. And you generally cannot do that with a stranger.

this is pretty much a viral infection of the mind.

 

[Imaculata]

Bit of a rough start of the week for me. Got called at 2 in the middle of the night. Whenever you get a call like that, it can't be good news, and it wasn't. My dad had been rushed to the hospital and had to under go immediate surgery for a cerebral haemorrhage (bleeding in the brain). Apparently he was able to call the emergency number, so they got to him in time. Several horrible hours later me and my sister got word that the operation was a success.

Due to Corona however, visiting someone in the hospital is a bit different now. Only 1 visitor is allowed at a time, and you must be in good health (no cough) and be wearing a mask obviously. Due to all the hospitals being overloaded with covid patients now, he had to be relocated to a hospital in a different city, when seconds can be a matter of life and death. The hospitals also have to move entire departments around, just to keep covid patients separated.

I think I mentioned a while ago how covid can cause deaths among regular patients simply due to delays. I never thought I'd be thrown into just that kind of situation with a member of my family.

He is doing well though, so that's a relief. They got to him in time, and immediately got him into surgery. The hospital is specialized in neuro surgery, so that's a blessing.