Could be, but that's well outside my range for safe, ignorant, speculation. Experts (people who actually work with that stuff) figured out that schedule, who am I, to question it? Such questioning, particularly during this time of lying propaganda to get folks to not vaccinate undermines the efforts to save lives.
D&D and the rising pandemic
My state is pretty bad. Our vaccination rate is around 56% of eligible people. Our infection rate has been 10%. It's the worst we've ever been, but at least it's plateauing.
Our governor was praised at the start of the pandemic for how he handled it, but the naysayers got in and factions are taking away his authority. Now it's running rampant and unchecked. He's forbidden from issuing any more mandates and is basically only a mouthpiece to beg people every day to get vaccines and be responsible.
If anything else is going to be legislated in my state, it must come from the U.S. federal government. Otherwise, I don't know what the death count is going to look like.
The vaccine is only good for so long. Maybe if enough people can get it at the same time, this will go away (instead of mutating).
Thomas Shey
Legend
California, where I live, is apparently doing at least as well as anyone: 72% have at least one dose, 59% are fully vaccinated.
With respect, it isn't like those making these vaccine are unaware of other protocols. But everyone seems to be an immunology expert these days...
When we say "covid is not the flu" we don't mean that just in terms of how it is a nastier disease. It is literally not the same kind of virus. In terms of taxonomic classification, covid is not the flu in the same way that your dog is not a clam - they are of different phylum classification.
Measels, Covid, and Mumps are all different, on sort of the same level as dogs, clams, and starfish are different. So, no, there is no silver bullet to generate long-lasting vaccine efficacy against them all. Dosing farther apart is not magical. It is merely the effective pattern for some diseases.
Here in Massachusetts, we have 73% at least partial, 66% full.
When speaking of boosters and long-lasting vaccine effectiveness, we should note that the news isn't all bad. Pfizer's efficacy against infection drops as time goes on. Its efficacy against hospitalization and death seems to stay very high.
So, in a personal sense folks are still pretty safe. The issue is that the pool of infected people may grow.
But also note that, at the moment, the pool of infected people in the US is not growing. It has been dropping notably since the start of September. The case curve in MA is pretty typical:
This seems to be a bit of a pattern for covid - a surge comes in for a couple of months, and then recedes. Why is not yet known - it may be something about the virus, or it may be something about human action in the face of the virus.
J.Quondam
CR 1/8
I thought this was a good overview of the difference between immunity by natural infection and by vaccination.
arstechnica.com
The TL;DR, of course, is get vaxxed, even if you've already had covid.
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No, your antibodies are not better than vaccination: An explainer
Infection does offer some immune protection—but it's unreliable compared with vaccines.
arstechnica.com
The TL;DR, of course, is get vaxxed, even if you've already had covid.
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Yep, that’s the pattern I mentioned a few days ago.
The thing is, I was listening to some MDs discuss C19’s pattern in the context of 2 previous pandemics (2009 & 1918) that had similar patterns. One thing they noted was that about this time in their waves, experts predicted more surges…that didn’t come. The rates rose a bit, but didn’t spike, and thereafter stayed low. The educated guess is that- while herd immunity hadn’t been reached- enough people had been exposed to make a true spike essentially impossible,
They were thinking we at that same point with Covid right now. Enough have been exposed or vaccinated that we’re past the worst. (Barring a horror-show mutation, of course.)
Zardnaar
Legend
Just wondering what Covids gonna do with more or less intact set of fresh victims. Vaccination rates seem higher and it's around 94% with the older crowd.
With decking death rates you've already had Las years deaths so it's running out of easy marks.
Last night they locked down another regiin due to uncooperative spreader. Social media is saying prostitute.
So in Auckland it leaked into the homeless and gangs and spread from there. And we have some of the lowest ICU numbers in the OECD.
Turns out running things down for 40 years is a bad idea.
With decking death rates you've already had Las years deaths so it's running out of easy marks.
Last night they locked down another regiin due to uncooperative spreader. Social media is saying prostitute.
So in Auckland it leaked into the homeless and gangs and spread from there. And we have some of the lowest ICU numbers in the OECD.
Turns out running things down for 40 years is a bad idea.
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Garthanos
Arcadian Knight
Perfect TL;DRI thought this was a good overview of the difference between immunity by natural infection and by vaccination.
No, your antibodies are not better than vaccination: An explainer
Infection does offer some immune protection—but it's unreliable compared with vaccines.
The TL;DR, of course, is get vaxxed, even if you've already had covid.
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Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
Moderna has been using their vaccine out of the hands of poor countries in order to make more money.
www.yahoo.com
Moderna, Racing for Profits, Keeps COVID Vaccine Out of Reach of Poor
Moderna, whose coronavirus vaccine appears to be the world’s best defense against COVID-19, has been supplying its shots almost exclusively to wealthy nations, keeping poorer countries waiting and earning billions in profit. After developing a breakthrough vaccine with the financial and...
