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General D&D Movie Moves Forward With Deal With Former Marvel Exec Jeremy Latcham

It looks like the D&D movie is moving forward and is being written by Jonathan Goldstein and directed by John Francis Daley.

 

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I hope this one will be better than the previous one...
I think it would have to try really hard to fail that bar. I think that bar is buried under a dump site somewhere.

Hoping it is actually a good movie is the real trick, and I'm looking forward to it. I know that previous successful movies don't mean this one won't flop, but that is a line-up of films that I loved in bedir than's post, so I'm going to take ten minutes to be optimistic (before remembering just how long this has been in development and how many hands it has gone through)
 

Parmandur

Legend
I think it would have to try really hard to fail that bar. I think that bar is buried under a dump site somewhere.

Hoping it is actually a good movie is the real trick, and I'm looking forward to it. I know that previous successful movies don't mean this one won't flop, but that is a line-up of films that I loved in bedir than's post, so I'm going to take ten minutes to be optimistic (before remembering just how long this has been in development and how many hands it has gone through)
That's the movie industry, though: doesn't mean anything one or another that this has taken so long, other than there is interest in making it happen.

I'm setting my expectations to "fun movie" rather than "good movie." I'll take a bad, fun movie that helps the brand, and hence the hobby. If it ends up good, nice.
 


John Francis Daley is a very solid choice.
Is he? I haven't seen either of his movies, Vacation and Game Night - RT gives one the first 27% but the second a very good 85%. Neither is a big-budget action movie and it doesn't seem like he'd have much experience of the kind of shooting he'd be doing here, but that maybe that doesn't matter now, given you get so much support from the crew. He seems like a nice guy but that doesn't guarantee much. I guess I'd have preferred someone with more experience, but at least he hasn't made a whole bunch of terrible movies or something.

They would do much better with a series on Netflix or Prime. It would be tough to make an amazing "D&D" movie.
Agreed. A movie is a weird way to go with D&D in 2020. In 2000, sure, but fantasy TV shows with decent to huge budgets and decent to huge viewerships are relatively common now, and D&D is riding high in such a way that people would definitely at least click on a D&D-based Netflix show and give it a chance.

I hope that this slightly retrograde approach doesn't mean the whole thing is retrograde.

I'm setting my expectations to "fun movie" rather than "good movie." I'll take a bad, fun movie that helps the brand, and hence the hobby. If it ends up good, nice.
All I'm hoping for is that people don't see the movie and go "I guess D&D sucks", which I feel a lot of people probably did when they saw the previous D&D movie. So yeah, fun. Even they go "that was dumb but at least it was fun", great. That's a win.
 

J-H

Explorer
D&D is a game system. A movie is about characters and plot. Which characters and plot will drive the movie and make it interesting?

Although it may be over-exposed within the D&D community, perhaps a "Drizz't escapes from Menzo, makes his way to the surface, finds friends and hope, and a new home" might be a good starting point. There is (I assume) plenty of characterization and actual storyline to follow there versus "random adventuring party doing random stuff."
 


bedir than

Adventurer
Is he? I haven't seen either of his movies, Vacation and Game Night - RT gives one the first 27% but the second a very good 85%. Neither is a big-budget action movie and it doesn't seem like he'd have much experience of the kind of shooting he'd be doing here, but that maybe that doesn't matter now, given you get so much support from the crew. He seems like a nice guy but that doesn't guarantee much. I guess I'd have preferred someone with more experience, but at least he hasn't made a whole bunch of terrible movies or something.
Screenplay for SpiderMan: Homecoming too
 

Screenplay for SpiderMan: Homecoming too
Yeah, which wasn't perfect but definitely wasn't bad (I felt like the main problems with it felt more like Management had come in asked certain elements be toned up/down too, rather than that the writer wasn't good). And he is writing and directing with the same guy as usual, so that's good.
 

payn

Explorer
Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley are the duo that did Horrible Bosses 1&2 and Game Night. They also were part of a team to write Spiderman Homecoming.

So the positive of these two is they write an ensemble flick pretty well. The downside is its all screwball comedies that are forgotten a day after viewing. Not sure if a serious story is to be expected. Id expect it will be a PG version of Your Highness at release.

That might not tickle the fancy of big time Forgettable Realms and Dragonlance fans, but I think for a wide release, a less serious film might be a better idea.
 


Parmandur

Legend
Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley are the duo that did Horrible Bosses 1&2 and Game Night. They also were part of a team to write Spiderman Homecoming.

So the positive of these two is they write an ensemble flick pretty well. The downside is its all screwball comedies that are forgotten a day after viewing. Not sure if a serious story is to be expected. Id expect it will be a PG version of Your Highness at release.

That might not tickle the fancy of big time Forgettable Realms and Dragonlance fans, but I think for a wide release, a less serious film might be a better idea.
Screwball comedy is an upside: anything else would constitute a betrayal of the source material.
 

Screwball comedy is an upside: anything else would constitute a betrayal of the source material.
OTOH, movies like Your Highness and Knights of Badassdom already exist, and haven't performed that well. The only successful live action, medieval fantasy comedy I can think of in the last 20 years is Role Models.

The idea of D&D done by the makers of Game Night and Horrible Bosses makes me think it will perform OK but not well enough to get a sequel, will probably age badly, and end up being remembered by no one.
 

Parmandur

Legend
OTOH, movies like Your Highness and Knights of Badassdom already exist, and haven't performed that well. The only successful live action, medieval fantasy comedy I can think of in the last 20 years is Role Models.

The idea of D&D done by the makers of Game Night and Horrible Bosses makes me think it will perform OK but not well enough to get a sequel, will probably age badly, and end up being remembered by no one.
The more relevant antecedents would be Guardians of the Galaxy and other MCU entries
 

The more relevant antecedents would be Guardians of the Galaxy and other MCU entries
Yeah, I think them being involved in the MCU is potentially a good sign. People are talking about how you can't really do a single DnD movie (which, you can, but I get the point that a series allows more nuanced character arcs) and the MCU was phenomenal about doing small bits with characters and allowing other movies to take up the torch.

I don't think they will go the way of a comedy movie, but one that does use humor effectively would be nice. Hopefully though, they don't go the route of Beer Thor or Draxx from Vol. 2. Neither of those characters were really funny, they were just aggravating to me. I wouldn't mind getting some more snark like Tony or awkwardness like Peter though, I could see those working in a DnD movie.
 


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