Dear Hasbro: about those minis

[rgard]

They have a limited number of non-random sets. Assuming he is talking about the current lines:

Starters are usually non-random (Heroclix, Horrorclix & Mechwarrior)
Battleforce sets (up to now, promotionals sets that can be order through their website)
Large figures (the equivalent of the DDM Icon line)

Hi Clyfair, thanks for the clarification. That said, I would still disagree that what Wizkids does with the starters, promotional battleforces and the large figs resembles what folks seem to be asking for here in this thread.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[rgard]

If you have a few million sitting around doing nothing, I will be happy to risk it on my ideas. I'll be doing well to pay the rent next month, and lacking manufacturers, distributors and connections for shipping, WotC need have no fear of me threatening their market share any time soon.



Sure I have the right. Opinions are free, and since none of the naysayers who disagree with me has ever done what they insist I must do in order to have an opinion, I feel myself under no burden to do any differently.

There is a market for people to buy what they want. The fact that WotC prefers to go with what they know can hardly be faulted them, but I refuse to pave the way with sunshine and roses.

And the fact is, there most certainly IS a market for non-randomized minis. I've bought the colossal red, the gargantuan black and plan to buy the gargantuan blue from Wizards of the Coast. All in boxes with clear fronts.

'This right' as in 'this correct.' Not whether you are allowed to ask for something. If you read the rest of the post the context is clear.

Again...

You claimed that GW and Wizkids are doing what you ask for and in actuality they are not.

 

[molonel]

'This right' as in 'this correct.' Not whether you are allowed to ask for something. If you read the rest of the post the context is clear.

Again...

You claimed that GW and Wizkids are doing what you ask for and in actuality they are not.

If you wish for me to read your posts with great precision and interest, then kindly return the favor. I never said that they were doing exactly what I want. I said that they proved you could sell non-randomized minis and make a profit.

Which they do.

 

[rgard]

If you wish for me to read your posts with great precision and interest, then kindly return the favor. I never said that they were doing exactly what I want. I said that they proved you could sell non-randomized minis and make a profit.

Which they do.

Nah, I got it right. Your examples do not prove the case.

I think we can agree to disagree at this point.

 

[Glyfair]

Hi Clyfair, thanks for the clarification. That said, I would still disagree that what Wizkids does with the starters, promotional battleforces and the large figs resembles what folks seem to be asking for here in this thread.

I do agree (and that's as someone that's been intimately familiar with WizKids).

They have dabbled in non-random games, with poor results (unless you count their great board games). Crimson Skies flopped and at least part of the blame has been laid on the non-random sets. Shadowrun also flopped, but that was probably because it was far too different from what people expected.

They are going to the well again this year with Mechwarrior. They are planning a number of non-random sets this year in their revamp of the line. We'll see how it does (I admit, I'm not optimistic about this part of the plan).

 

[rgard]

Nah, I got it right. Your examples do not prove the case.

I think we can agree to disagree at this point.

This could help...

http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=185358

 

[molonel]

Nah, I got it right. Your examples do not prove the case.

I think we can agree to disagree at this point.

I wasn't trying to prove "the case." I simply said that companies sell non-randomized minis, and do so profitably. There are non-randomized Heroclix packs, and GW sells minis thare substantially more expensive than anything I've ever purchased from WotC.

I agree to disagree with you, anyway, though.

 

[rgard]

I wasn't trying to prove "the case." I simply said that companies sell non-randomized minis, and do so profitably. There are non-randomized Heroclix packs, and GW sells minis thare substantially more expensive than anything I've ever purchased from WotC.

I agree to disagree with you, anyway, though.

Ok, we're cool.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[D.Shaffer]

Rackham is trying this out now.
You'll note the price tag isnt cheap.

Mongoose is also trying something similar. (Battlefield Evolution)

Again, note the prices.
$30 for 9 US marines. ($3.33 each)
$30 for 10 PLA Infantry ($3.00 each)
$30 for 8 British infantry ($3.75 each)

 

[McBard]

Does anyone know how well WoTC did with their Attack On Endor scenario pack for the Star Wars minis game? I bring it up as an interesting anomaly with regards to much of this thread's discussion: the non-random pack consisted of an already released random "desirable" mini (the AT-ST), a handful of commons, and a double-sided map. I believe the cost was about $20.

This pack strikes me as an in-between compared to the rest of WoTC's minis line (neither a $12 purely random box, nor a $50 single "iconic" like the Colossal Red Dragon).

Why did they release the Attack On Endor scenario pack thusly? Did it sell well? If so, could it be repeated for DDM? How does the scenario pack approach fit into Merric's Law?