D&D General Bought a brick of the 50th Anniversary minis :(


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I don't know what I expected.

Over all some cool stuff. I got the 1E Elf. Got some classic 1E monsters. Goblins and Bugbears and Kobolds, but I wanted like a lot of them. Which I get distribution etc...

What I did not like was getting 3 Flair Snails. Really? Good distribution in a brick?

And I guess I should have looked at the contents list online closer because ALL OF THE CARTOON CHARACTERS ARE CHASE FIGURES. As in ONE PER BRICK.

Know which Chase I got? The one worth the least. The Fiend in Hell, which combos with the Paladin in Hell. Which I did not get, because one per brick.

You which Chase figs are going for the most on Ebay? Yeah it's the cartoon characters. DM alone is like $150!

Why would WotC take the cartoon characters. Put them in a new adventures and showcase them for the new updated edition and then make the figures hard to get? Yeah half are cheap from that starter set but what if I want Sheila and DM, and Venger? And especially Sheila.

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Lesson learned I guess. Just buy off the aftermarket. Do the Chase go down in cost after a while?

Going to sale the rares for like $20 each maybe turn around and buy some more 1E minis.
The chase DM was 35 dollars 3 weeks ago. You are collecting after the set is selling out.
 

Because you are.
That's a load of BS! In all cases it's a problem with the consumer, not reading well enough and/or not understanding what they're buying.

Let me start by saying up front that I find that Wizkids (prepainted) miniatures tend to be quite expensive (I bought the gigantic Tiamat) and the painting not all that great, in many cases worse then the old WotC prepainted miniatures. The last time I bought prepainted random boosters was when WotC was still making their own.

Miniatures aren't exactly cheap. Not even the cheap PVC Reaper mini KS... Pre painted minis even less cheap. And not much competition that actually make them. Getting others to paint for you isn't cheap either (far more expensive actually). Painting minis yourself isn't cheap either, the paints, the brushes and all the other supporting products, not to mention the value of your time. You paint yourself either because you enjoy it or you have no other choice.

A $25 booster gets you 1 large and 3 medium/small prepainted miniatures. That's cheap compared to any other options! That your not getting exactly what you want is a problem with your expectation! They say upfront that the selection is random with rarities. If you then expect to get X when you buy Y your expectations are skewed!

d&d icons of the realms 50th anniversary set
This lists exactly what minis to expect at what rarity. Something like:
Explains the way this works.

The 'Chase' minis are a new addition to the formula, but with a quick google search you find that you can expect 1 chase per case. Personally I find about half the 'Chase' minis undesirable and only half (the cartoon minis) really interesting. But the rest of the series is almost absolutely GOLD! Imho far better then most old WotC distribution. The commons are actually desirable common monsters, uncommons are uncommon monsters that you don't want 10 of and the rare are actually rare monsters or unique NPCs. I'm not a fan of the 'Chase' shenanigans, but I'm not buying this anyway...

If you want some VERY specific minis, you either buy from a third party seller that opens oodles of cases and sells the minis, prices are often based on demand vs supply. Thus the insanely high prices for a Dungeonmaster mini (extremely rare and very high demand). OR your buy pre painted sets that are significantly more expensive then the random minis if you pay per mini.

Prepainted:
D&D Classic Collection: Monsters S-T (1x small, 3x medium, 3x large) $80

D&D Icons of the Realms: Kuo-Toa Warband (5x medium) $50

D&D Icons of the Realms Premium Figures: Gnome Wizard Male (1 small) $8

Unpainted:
2x medium/small minis $5
1x large mini $9

Unpainted + paint:
1x large + paint + brush $20

Paying someone on commission is $4-$9 per medium figure at the most basic painting level available, $20+ for more advanced stuff. And that's from the cheapest commission painter I could find!

If we look at the pre painted stuff you're getting 3x $2.50 + $9 = $16.50 for $25, so you're paying $8.50 for painting 3 medium/small and 1x large minis. The disadvantage being you don't know what you'll get. ~$1.30 per medium/small mini and ~$4.60 per large mini. That's way cheaper then Wizkids non-'random' assortment of prepainted minis, far cheaper then buying unpainted minis and paying someone to paint them, painting them yourself (even if you don't value your time), etc.

IF I were starting a (pre painted) miniature collection for D&D AND had the money for it, I would buy 2-4 cases of this. Sell the double rare uniques and possibly sell the Chase ones as well, as at some of the prices mentioned one could buy a lot nicer minis and let some professionals paint it. So unless you're a collector or completionist... But in most cases this is a source of relatively cheap pre painted miniatures.

Note: As mentioned, I have the old WotC ranges from the randoms, I often bought multiple cases to get 12 of a (common) monster and a few of the uncommon monsters with the rares often as bonus. The advantage of these was relatively cheap minis that came with a very basic paintjob that I could literally dump in a plastic bag and toss in my backpack. Something that I couldn't do with any other minis at the time, them either being hard (HIPS) plastic, metal or resin... And if I invest my time in painting a PVC cheap mini, I'm probably not dumping it in a plastic bag... The time I spend on it making it way more valuable (to me). I'm not sure how well these Wizkids minis take being tossed in a plastic bag, as I only have the bigger dragons and they seem a lot more fragile then the WotC ones...
 

So on topic, I do feel for the OP not getting anything useful. Personally I only ever bought a pack or two before I gave up and started going to sites that just sold the individual minis. Might not be satisfying to some people, but I'm not a collector I just want minis I can use for my game.

On the other hand, if you're into buying the boxes for the collector/gambling aspect then you have to accept a certain level of risk. I wish there was an option to just order what you want directly from the company, even if it was a slightly higher cost per mini. Then again I don't play MtG either in large part because there's too much randomness when purchasing decks.

I got some stuff I like but none of the ones I really wanted.

Luckily I can sale what I don’t want and recoup some cost

Still would have been better to just buy what I wanted on the after market
 

That's a load of BS! In all cases it's a problem with the consumer, not reading well enough and/or not understanding what they're buying.

Let me start by saying up front that I find that Wizkids (prepainted) miniatures tend to be quite expensive (I bought the gigantic Tiamat) and the painting not all that great, in many cases worse then the old WotC prepainted miniatures. The last time I bought prepainted random boosters was when WotC was still making their own.

Miniatures aren't exactly cheap. Not even the cheap PVC Reaper mini KS... Pre painted minis even less cheap. And not much competition that actually make them. Getting others to paint for you isn't cheap either (far more expensive actually). Painting minis yourself isn't cheap either, the paints, the brushes and all the other supporting products, not to mention the value of your time. You paint yourself either because you enjoy it or you have no other choice.

A $25 booster gets you 1 large and 3 medium/small prepainted miniatures. That's cheap compared to any other options! That your not getting exactly what you want is a problem with your expectation! They say upfront that the selection is random with rarities. If you then expect to get X when you buy Y your expectations are skewed!

d&d icons of the realms 50th anniversary set
This lists exactly what minis to expect at what rarity. Something like:
Explains the way this works.

The 'Chase' minis are a new addition to the formula, but with a quick google search you find that you can expect 1 chase per case. Personally I find about half the 'Chase' minis undesirable and only half (the cartoon minis) really interesting. But the rest of the series is almost absolutely GOLD! Imho far better then most old WotC distribution. The commons are actually desirable common monsters, uncommons are uncommon monsters that you don't want 10 of and the rare are actually rare monsters or unique NPCs. I'm not a fan of the 'Chase' shenanigans, but I'm not buying this anyway...

If you want some VERY specific minis, you either buy from a third party seller that opens oodles of cases and sells the minis, prices are often based on demand vs supply. Thus the insanely high prices for a Dungeonmaster mini (extremely rare and very high demand). OR your buy pre painted sets that are significantly more expensive then the random minis if you pay per mini.

Prepainted:
D&D Classic Collection: Monsters S-T (1x small, 3x medium, 3x large) $80

D&D Icons of the Realms: Kuo-Toa Warband (5x medium) $50

D&D Icons of the Realms Premium Figures: Gnome Wizard Male (1 small) $8

Unpainted:
2x medium/small minis $5
1x large mini $9

Unpainted + paint:
1x large + paint + brush $20

Paying someone on commission is $4-$9 per medium figure at the most basic painting level available, $20+ for more advanced stuff. And that's from the cheapest commission painter I could find!

If we look at the pre painted stuff you're getting 3x $2.50 + $9 = $16.50 for $25, so you're paying $8.50 for painting 3 medium/small and 1x large minis. The disadvantage being you don't know what you'll get. ~$1.30 per medium/small mini and ~$4.60 per large mini. That's way cheaper then Wizkids non-'random' assortment of prepainted minis, far cheaper then buying unpainted minis and paying someone to paint them, painting them yourself (even if you don't value your time), etc.

IF I were starting a (pre painted) miniature collection for D&D AND had the money for it, I would buy 2-4 cases of this. Sell the double rare uniques and possibly sell the Chase ones as well, as at some of the prices mentioned one could buy a lot nicer minis and let some professionals paint it. So unless you're a collector or completionist... But in most cases this is a source of relatively cheap pre painted miniatures.

Note: As mentioned, I have the old WotC ranges from the randoms, I often bought multiple cases to get 12 of a (common) monster and a few of the uncommon monsters with the rares often as bonus. The advantage of these was relatively cheap minis that came with a very basic paintjob that I could literally dump in a plastic bag and toss in my backpack. Something that I couldn't do with any other minis at the time, them either being hard (HIPS) plastic, metal or resin... And if I invest my time in painting a PVC cheap mini, I'm probably not dumping it in a plastic bag... The time I spend on it making it way more valuable (to me). I'm not sure how well these Wizkids minis take being tossed in a plastic bag, as I only have the bigger dragons and they seem a lot more fragile then the WotC ones...
It’s worth mentioning the quality of the paint job in the blind box minis IME is typically noticeably worse than the quality of the painting on WizKids other prepainted sets in the plastic blister packs you can see. I would guess the painter commission rates you mentioned would do a better job if that matters. That said, they are still good enough for use at the table where they just have to be recognizable at a short distance in play. If I hadn’t switched to basically playing exclusively on Foundry VTT these days I would probably do exactly what you said: buy 2-3 cases, keep what I would use for play and eBay anything unique of any worthwhile value. Stuff like this can be a pretty cost effective way to build out a painted mini collection despite the upfront cost.
 

It’s worth mentioning the quality of the paint job in the blind box minis IME is typically noticeably worse than the quality of the painting on WizKids other prepainted sets in the plastic blister packs you can see. I would guess the painter commission rates you mentioned would do a better job if that matters. That said, they are still good enough for use at the table where they just have to be recognizable at a short distance in play. If I hadn’t switched to basically playing exclusively on Foundry VTT these days I would probably do exactly what you said: buy 2-3 cases, keep what I would use for play and eBay anything unique of any worthwhile value. Stuff like this can be a pretty cost effective way to build out a painted mini collection despite the upfront cost.
I got my first whole case a couple weeks ago.

I just don’t have the patience to eBay and Amazon anymore; I try to find stores that buyback.

For years I did buying and selling with miniature market; they abruptly got out of the buyback business. These days I use cool stuff.

If I look back and the bundles of singles I bought and the shipping associated with each, buying a case seemed reasonable thought the discount came from
Fronting the money and buying many I did not care for.

I am sitting on a bunch of blaze bears and astral…something’s…which they don’t want to buy back yet.

All in all, I think this is more cost effective. I sent in about 100 dollars worth of trade; I hope to grab singles from
The next case with this..
 

I opened up one slot and have 5e books at the base…but some shelves like demons and devils are tight and might need to be split.

In fact I am in the process of moving and trading for new minis so some of the open spaces will get taken up.

Goodman games classics added for some old school conversion fun!

Pay no attention to piles of toys and such in the background ;)

Okay so ... PC minis. I have a few. Most are metal from Reaper that I've painted, newer ones are 3D printed.
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Monsters. I have a handful of the large plastic ones in here that I purchased (others printed), the medium to small ones are almost all ones I've painted over the years.
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I'm not going to bother with the boxes of purchased minis we still have. Not enough storage space to display!
 

Okay so ... PC minis. I have a few. Most are metal from Reaper that I've painted, newer ones are 3D printed.
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Monsters. I have a handful of the large plastic ones in here that I purchased (others printed), the medium to small ones are almost all ones I've painted over the years.
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I'm not going to bother with the boxes of purchased minis we still have. Not enough storage space to display!
Thanks for the peek into your collection!
I love seeing what people have!

There is 3D printing but aside from that it’s amazing how much is commercially available! I have not seen a fraction of what is out there.

My good buddy repurposed a lot of mage
Knight heroscape etc and rebased for D&D…never know what will come out on the table!!!

My brother has been getting bones kickstarters (he is a great painter and did my Baphomet and demogorgon!) but he just got and eye of the deep from reaper…

Anyway that is fun. Would love
To see more collections (hint, hint)
 

Picked up some spare 1E Goblins, Kobolds, and Bugbears from Ebay.

I'll just get the BG3 stuff off Ebay. Hopefully Minthara won't be insane in cost.
 

Why would WotC take the cartoon characters. Put them in a new adventures and showcase them for the new updated edition and then make the figures hard to get? Yeah half are cheap from that starter set but what if I want Sheila and DM, and Venger? And especially Sheila.
I've been collecting the WizKids miniatures since they first released but stopped a few years ago since I'm drowning in plastic now and not thrilled by most of the changes that have been made over the years.

As far as rarity, that should come down to how many of a certain figure you would need during a typical game. Thus, most named NPCs and powerful creatures are "rare" while orcs & goblins would make sense to be "common". Never heard of "chase" rarity, that sounds like a TERRIBLE idea and incredibly anti-consumer. One of the best features for us who didn't want to play the "random game" was knowing you could buy a Case and be guaranteed to get at least one of every miniature with multiple miniatures making "logical game" sense why. If that's not the case (pun not intended), I would spend your money elsewhere till WotC learns to respect their fan's wallets.
 

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