Disarm with Reach?


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Stalker0 said:
You could also rule that the opponent could attempt a disarm or sunder attempt on the weapon, which has to be in your 5foot threatened space at some point. Bascially in that case, its make a disarm attempt or give up your AOO.

Problem with that is if neither guy has improved disarm, you get a lot of back and forth with AOO, but it does make reach weapons a little less powerful.
I think it bears mentioning that the back-and-forth AoO's are limited to one AoO against an opponent per round.

-AK
 

Stalker0 said:
You could also rule that the opponent could attempt a disarm or sunder attempt on the weapon, which has to be in your 5foot threatened space at some point. Bascially in that case, its make a disarm attempt or give up your AOO.

Problem with that is if neither guy has improved disarm, you get a lot of back and forth with AOO, but it does make reach weapons a little less powerful.

You could also simplify your life a whole lot and say that there is no AoO if the opponent doesn't threaten. Trust me, it won't make reach weapons overpowered--the only one anyone ever accuses of being overpowered is the spiked chain and that has nothing to do with making disarm attempts. . . .
 

Stalker0 said:

Problem with that is if neither guy has improved disarm, you get a lot of back and forth with AOO, but it does make reach weapons a little less powerful.

Not a lot: first the one makes an AoO, than the other. After that, they'll have used up their AoO's for that round, and we can go on (even with Combat Reflexes you can AoO any given opponent only once per round).
 

KaeYoss said:


Not a lot: first the one makes an AoO, than the other. After that, they'll have used up their AoO's for that round, and we can go on (even with Combat Reflexes you can AoO any given opponent only once per round).

A attempts to disarm B, which provokes AOO. B decides to disarm as his AOO, provoking a AOO. As an AOO, A decides to disarm B again. A fails, so now B gets a counterdisarm attempt on A. Or maybe A succeds, which would mean that B can no longer make any attacks, including the one which provoked the AOO that A used to disarm in the first place.

But let's assume that never happens:) So B counterdisarms and fails. Now B take his AOO, and fails. A gets to counterdisarm and fails. Now A gets to take his original disarm attempt and fails, B counterdisarms and fails.

I guess my definition of complicated is a little different than most people's:)
 

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