Vaalingrade
Legend
Nope. Psionics has been demoted to flavor text to tag onto a subclass. It's not even psionics, just regular magic like wizard spells or owning books, or aiming at things.Is there an actual psionic class yet?
Nope. Psionics has been demoted to flavor text to tag onto a subclass. It's not even psionics, just regular magic like wizard spells or owning books, or aiming at things.Is there an actual psionic class yet?
WoTC is unlikely to bring back a 5e version of Tome of Battle: Book of 9 Swords. But something like them has been brought back for EN Publishing's Level Up for its' martial classes.They haven't came back with Diamond Mind, Iron Heart, White Raven, Setting Sun and the other schools of fighting, I doubt they're thinking of those psionic organizations from 3.5e.
Not at all--not for a generic organization. But an organization for the promotion of a specific skill set should have people who...y'know...actually possess and cultivate that set of skills.Why not? Why is a full class required in order to have an organization?
It's fine as the basis for an organisation. Having a range of classes with similarly themed subclasses works better for an organisation than requiring everyone to belong to the same class. But WotC needs to stay at least somewhat contemporary. Old style D&D psionics is very 1970s, and therefore is just the sort of niche market smaller companies cater to.Not at all--not for a generic organization. But an organization for the promotion of a specific skill set should have people who...y'know...actually possess and cultivate that set of skills.
As @Vaalingrade said, psionics has been demoted to being a flavor tag applied to purely arcane spellcasting. There is no actual psionic power available to player characters. There are arcane classes who use illusions, enchantments, and conjurations with a psychic flavor or psychic damage type. That's not the same thing—for exactly the same reason that an Eldritch Knight that got a couple Cleric spells and radiant damage spells wouldn't be a Paladin. They do not have a psionic skillset. They have an arcane spellcasting skillset that happens to emphasize mind-affecting spells.
I'm hoping the new Background rules can be adapted to Organisation backgrounds including one that greats a Psionics feat of some sort - so sure Psionics will still be a flavour tag for some other class powers, but a well made thematic tag might be just the flavour we needIt's fine as the basis for an organisation. Having a range of classes with similarly themed subclasses works better for an organisation than requiring everyone to belong to the same class. But WotC needs to stay at least somewhat contemporary. Old style D&D psionics is very 1970s, and therefore is just the sort of niche market smaller companies cater to.
I didn't say I require everyone to belong to that class.It's fine as the basis for an organisation. Having a range of classes with similarly themed subclasses works better for an organisation than requiring everyone to belong to the same class. But WotC needs to stay at least somewhat contemporary.
Chronological snobbery is not a worthwhile argument. Either define why it went out of style, at which point a reference to what year it came from is irrelevant, or don't treat the more-distant past as inferior simply because it is not the more-recent past. D&D itself is "very 1970s," and it's still alive and kicking today--and is 100% still a "niche market."Old style D&D psionics is very 1970s, and therefore is just the sort of niche market smaller companies cater to.
I never played 3E for long, but even if I had come across such things I never would have used them in the first place.So what say you? Is there a place for psionic organizations still, or are they now a relic of the past?
1e psionics is more like a list of randomly acquired feats. 4e had a list of level 1 feats, for psychic talents. (For Dark Sun but in 4e everything is core.) Likewise 5e Tashas has psionic theme feats. It is natural for 5e 2024 to supply backgrounds that involve experience with the psionic power source and supply a psionic feat.I'm hoping the new Background rules can be adapted to Organisation backgrounds including one that greats a Psionics feat of some sort - so sure Psionics will still be a flavour tag for some other class powers, but a well made thematic tag might be just the flavour we need