OldSchoolGamerGirl
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yeah, I can't imagine anyone playing in middle earth with a half let alone full caster from D&D
D&D (2024) Do you see Fighter players at your own table?
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Nope.
"LOTR with Mages and more monsters" is 10000000% how the design teams of D&D have portrayed D&D for 80% of its life
Well thats different. Selling DND as LOTR+ is different from it being designed as LOTR+
It is designed as LOTR+. This is why all of the nonmagical full fighters at any of my 5e tables I have even seen were raceswapped Gimli, Legolas, or Faramir clones or nondescript town guards.
So again the design of magic users completely contradicts the LOTR+ designation. Thats not an insignificant departure and thats without getting into how nearly every single Martial combination is excessively beyond anything seen in LOTR.
Hell, a lot of DND regularly exceeds mythic LOTR. Slaying Ancalagon the Black or Gothmog are nearly incomprehensible mythical feats in the context of LOTR. In DND thats just Tuesday before lunch.
My point is the design of the fighter, the class that this topic is about...
the most popular class in the game...
...is designed around warriors in LOTRs.
And the common complaints of D&D fighters is that it fails to create nonmagical warrior archetypes not present in LOTR. So people once they become experienced tend to stop playing nonmagical fullclass fighters unless they love LOTR or want to turn their brains off.
But again, even that is inaccurate. Even a Champion Fighter is well in excess of what LOTR human fighters can do just by virtue of of Survivor. And thats without getting into the weeds over what Critical even is or whether or not being able to jump 50-70ft+ in a single bound counts as merely mundane.
That's a function of level not inspiration.
This is why the high levels of the fighter battlemaster and champion are uninteresting and just more of your low level stuff.
Because the design focus is on the first third of the game where LOTR is based.
And why almost anyone of experience hoping to play into or past the mid levels multiclasses or as magic to their fighter.
Neonchameleon
Legend
Mmmm... I can just about imagine playing Radagast as a 5e Druid. Which kinda makes the point.
Azzy
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Since I started DMing/playing 5e in 2014, I've seen exactly two Fighters. The first was in 2014 and was a Battlemaster NPC I originally created to buff up the party (I only had two players to start with). He got handed over to a player when I finally had four players. The other was an Eldritch Knight that I played in another campaign. So, no, nothing that fits the stringent parameters of this poll.
I definitely want to play a non-magical Fighter. However, the class as currently designed is a letdown.
I definitely want to play a non-magical Fighter. However, the class as currently designed is a letdown.
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