Does Remove Paralysis Affect Stunned Targets?
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"Paralyzed
A paralyzed character is frozen in place and unable to move or act. A paralyzed character has effective Dexterity and Strength scores of 0 and is helpless, but can take purely mental actions. A winged creature flying in the air at the time that it becomes paralyzed cannot flap its wings and falls. A paralyzed swimmer can’t swim and may drown. A creature can move through a space occupied by a paralyzed creature—ally or not. Each square occupied by a paralyzed creature, however, counts as 2 squares.
Stunned
A stunned creature drops everything held, can’t take actions, takes a -2 penalty to AC, and loses his Dexterity bonus to AC (if any). " - taken from the SRD.
It looks to me like they are two different conditions. So I would say, no.
A paralyzed character is frozen in place and unable to move or act. A paralyzed character has effective Dexterity and Strength scores of 0 and is helpless, but can take purely mental actions. A winged creature flying in the air at the time that it becomes paralyzed cannot flap its wings and falls. A paralyzed swimmer can’t swim and may drown. A creature can move through a space occupied by a paralyzed creature—ally or not. Each square occupied by a paralyzed creature, however, counts as 2 squares.
Stunned
A stunned creature drops everything held, can’t take actions, takes a -2 penalty to AC, and loses his Dexterity bonus to AC (if any). " - taken from the SRD.
It looks to me like they are two different conditions. So I would say, no.
That was my reasoning as well. However, consider the following:
A person under the effects of a slow spell is not paralyzed, yet he would benefit from a remove paralysis spell. Plus, the above statement is not necessarily exhaustive, so one could argue (as my players did) that remove paralysis would work for someone suffering from a power word stun effect.
Thoughts?
Atavar
Remove Paralysis said:
A person under the effects of a slow spell is not paralyzed, yet he would benefit from a remove paralysis spell. Plus, the above statement is not necessarily exhaustive, so one could argue (as my players did) that remove paralysis would work for someone suffering from a power word stun effect.
Thoughts?
Atavar
Mouseferatu
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While the list is not exhausted, because there are other ways to paralyze someone, the inclusion of slow is specifically called out. If there were other non-paralysis exceptions, I believe they would be called out as well.
"Paralyzed" is a very different condition than "stunned." No, remove paralysis would not remove the stunned condition.
"Paralyzed" is a very different condition than "stunned." No, remove paralysis would not remove the stunned condition.
starwed
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There's also this: stun is more of a mental condition, while all the others listed affect you more physically. (You can take mental actions while paralyzed, but not while stunned.) That's somewhat flavor based, but it might make a good rule of thumb about what remove paralysis can effect.
Mouseferatu said:
If I were to allow remove paralysis to have any effect it would not be to remove the stunned condition but rather the "can take no actions" portion of the stunned condition. The stunned character would still have dropped everything and have the penalties to AC and Dex. Also, the stunned effect would have to be a magical effect (as it is with power word stun) in order for remove paralysis to work.
Along the same vein as remove paralysis, what about freedom of movement? Would that work?
Freedom of Movement said:
Does power word stun impede movement? Or does it simply apply a condition (stunned) that indirectly impedes movement?
Thanks,
Atavar
Sejs
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This is another of those areas where the ambiguity really doesn't help.
The spell seems mostly to affect magical restrictions of your mobility. Paralysis, ghoul touch, and slow are mentioned. But would it work against, say a Web or Entangle spell? What about a Hold Monster? Held and paralyzed are different effects, mostly in that one's mental and the other physical... but if Remove Paralysis can alieviate a mental paralysis like Hold, why not a mental paralysis like being konked silly by a PW:Stun?
The spell seems mostly to affect magical restrictions of your mobility. Paralysis, ghoul touch, and slow are mentioned. But would it work against, say a Web or Entangle spell? What about a Hold Monster? Held and paralyzed are different effects, mostly in that one's mental and the other physical... but if Remove Paralysis can alieviate a mental paralysis like Hold, why not a mental paralysis like being konked silly by a PW:Stun?
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