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DS9-Better of the trek shows?

Darthjaye

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Was the last season and a half the best that all of the trek series had to offer in recent time? Really liked the writing as it developed and had a nice finale that actually made sense for why the show would end. War was over. Everyone had gone their seperate ways in story arcs that made sense. The main character ascends. The good guys (the Federation) weren't always so good (the virus the release on the Founders after making a stance in all the series about outlawing the use of bio weapons). It wasn't the accidental storyline where they inadvertantly did it, they were downright devious at times. Although it initially bugged me that they added their super secret organization (can't remember the name but William Sadler was the apparent head of said group). Every character became a little more interesting. What was your take on this series? What did you ultimately like or hate about it?
 

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I agree DS9 is the best of the Trek series. While hardly up to Babylon 5 standards of sneakiness, the characters were far from perfect. And they frequently failed to get along with each other in more serious ways than just irritating one another. Good stuff.

The Federation of DS9 is a lot like the Federation in my own various long-running Trek campaigns. Basically benevolent, but able and willing to be underhanded when the situation called for it.
 

I actually think the Golden Age of DS9 was the end of Season 2 and beginning of Season 3 -- before things got too convoluted -- but I can certainly agree that DS9 in general was the best written of all the Trek shows.
 

DS9 is certain in my top 2 Star Trek series. It depends on my mood in TV viewing whether it or the original series is #1.

When I want to watch a set of episodes about general sci-fi ideas without caring about a static backdrop, I'd watch TOS and favor that series over the others. Some of those sci-fi ideas may seem quaint and outdated today, but some of them are still pretty fascinating. And TOS certainly was a series for exploring ideas.
If I'm in a mood to watch longer running story-lines, politics, and character development over > 1 episode, then I would favor DS9.

In any event, I like both immensely. NextGen is good technically and has some fine acting and good stories from time to time, but not quite as interesting. I'll still watch it if it comes on the TV and I'm around, but I don't actively seek it out.
 

I infinitely prefer both TNG and TOS to DS9. DS9 was good sci fi, but at its "best" it was barely star trek. Since what I really like is Star Trek, it was often a little hard to swallow.

Sadly, the two series that followed it were even less true to Trek, which still leaves it firmly in the top 3.
 

Unfortunately, I gave up on DS9 after about season 3 or 4. Which, from what I'm learning, was right before it started getting good again. :(

Maybe if I can ever catch reruns in order again, I'll give it a shot. I did like the concept of DS9, and the characters... it just didn't seem to be going anywhere by the third season. Plus, I was hooked on B5 at the time. ;)
 


I definitely agree that DS9 was the superior Trek series. Admittedly it doesn't quite fit into the typical Trek model, being set on a space station, but I think that's actually what made it work better for me. Without the "alien of the week" plots, they were able to devote more time to developing the characters. It always amazed me that there was more development of Worf's character during his tenure on DS9 than there had been in his 7 years on TNG.
 

When I tell people that I liked Trek, I essentially mean TOS and DS9.

TOS was the correct Trek for the 60s -- brash, hopeful, forward looking, but with moral quandaries that had to be faced, the notion that even with superior technology we still carry problems within us. The human factor, even when in alien guise was both the blessing and the curse of the universe. Above all, there was hope.

DS9 was correct for its time -- still hopeful, but a bit more wary. Humankind, even in the form of the generally benevolent Federation, was far from perfect. There were cracks in the foundation, mistrust, and even mistakes. Yet for all this, and perhaps even because of this, it was still a very hopeful series. Even in the face of shifting alliances, even in the face of secrets hidden within an otherwise judicious government, even in the face of religious zealotry, there was the hope that things could and would improve, that the human spirit (again, even when in alien guise) would rise to the occasion.

TNG was a bit too clean, too PC for my tastes, though it had some excellent episodes (none of which was a two-parter). VOY lost my interest pretty much from the first episode because it blew one of the most fascinating ideas of its premise immediately -- how do you hold such a disparate crew together with two differing visions of how life should be led and who should command (Maquis v. Federation). Enterprise I didn't see enough to really critique, but I was saddened with the couple episodes I did see for the way they messed with the timeline.

In the end, however, it all comes down to the moral quandry episodes for me. Often in TOS a single decision and point of view was reached, and this was fine. In DS9 there were often many shaded points of view, each valid under a particular set of circumstances, and this again was fine.

And in the end, here is to Ben Sisko, the captain stuck in the most difficult position possible (Federation/Bajoran, Starfleet/Civilian, Human/Emmissary, etc.), who carried it all off with panache!
 

I liked DS9 a lot. I'm not going to try to rank it against the other Trek shows, because I think that does them all a bit of a disservice. If they were similar enough to compare closely, then they wouldn't have needed separate shows.

In general, I think DS9 was well written, had characters with greater depth than seen on most shows - including other Trek, and better execution and use of the cast ensemble than seen in most other places as well.
 

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