D&D 5E Eberron versus Multiverse

[Eyes of Nine]

Actually, didn't Tolkein create the elves we all play in D&D? You know, sexy, ancient, good at archery, good at magic, etc etc?

To the OP, you keep saying "5e destroyed Eberron."
Is the existence or non-existence of gods the only thing important to Eberron? I think that's limited thinking. It's like saying the only thing important to know about Brazil is it's a predominantly Catholic country. really?

Gods from Toril? Pff, big whoop.

For me, I don't give a rat's buttock to that aspect of Eberron.

For me, I loved all the pulp action and noir stories I could potentially tell; the ubiquity of low level magic; the post-war environment; the steampunk aspect (warforged, airships, lightning rail) of the setting; the political intrigue and espionage.

For me, 5e created Eberron. If WotC hadn't printed it, I'd never think to play in it. And guess what, now that there are at least 3 official non-FR settings, I'm going to use it in a future multi-verse spanning campaign including Ravnica, Eberron, Forgotten Realms, and whatever other settings exist officially (except Ravenloft - I personally have no interest in that setting). I may also add other unofficial settings like Planescape, Greyhawk, Dark Sun, and even non D&D settings like Midgard, Kalamar, Ptolus etc if I get motivated.

Thank you WotC for adding that link from Eberron to the rest of the Multiverse. For me, that's a great part of Eberron.

 

[Beleriphon]

On page 232, Eberron Rising says as fact: "The three progenitor wyrms recreated the elves found throughout the multiverse and placed them in their new world, beyond the reach of Corellon."

The polytheistic gods of the Forgotten Realms officially exist in Eberron. The god Corellon officially exists in Eberron. The Corellon-spawn elves officially exist in Eberron. The elves on the planet of Eberron are recreated duplicates of the Corellon-spawn elves. Officially.

So, you're complaint is that Eberron is linked to the rest of the D&D multiverse, vaguely and the setting book says the official stance is that it is separate until you as DM choose that it isn't?

I also think you aren't understanding that Eberron is also polytheisic. In fact the Sovereign Host and the Dark Six are more functionally polytheistic (ie. they way it actually worked historically) than Forgotten Realms. Also, they may or may be real which in no way has any impact on Corellon being a deity in other settings or or Merrix d'Cannith from finding a way to go visit him.

 

[tetrasodium]

Well... I don't agree with @Yaarel, but he/she/they isn't actually just making it up. MToF does state that all Elves are the progeny of Corellon.

Well, in a way, it does.

Which is why rising says that something else happened in eberron. The three progenitors are not meant to be taken literally as the entire story (any never have), but it also says this

Spoiler: Rising Pg20

Tens of thousands of years ago, the elves of the distant continent of Xen'drik rose up against the giants who ruled over them. This rebellion is the defining event in elf history. As the ancient war progressed, the magebreeders of the giants bound magic into the elves who remained loyal to them, forming the drow-assassins bred to prey on their other kin. Ultimately, the elves fled from Xen'drik and settled the island nation of Aerenal, where they split into two distinct cultures: the introspective Aereni and the warlike Tairnadal. Thus, a war nearly forty thousand years ago established the pattern of how elves live today.

On page 232, Eberron Rising says as fact: "The three progenitor wyrms recreated the elves found throughout the multiverse and placed them in their new world, beyond the reach of Corellon."

The polytheistic gods of the Forgotten Realms officially exist in Eberron. The god Corellon officially exists in Eberron. The Corellon-spawn elves officially exist in Eberron. The elves on the planet of Eberron are recreated duplicates of the Corellon-spawn elves. Officially.

Citation Needed

There is no twist. Eberron elves originate from factually existing god Corellon from the Forgotten Realms setting.

Officially.

Citation Needed

@Yaarel , regarding your claiming to have quoted sections of rising, that is a laughable claim given that evrything you've "quoted" has been context free cherry picked misinterpretations. That you would make them as you did rather than responding to my posts that actually took the time to transcribe large sections of Rising that contradict your bizarre interpretation is not surprising. Sure the eberron in the multiverse could have also mentioned giant magebreeders, but the elf section makes no mention of them & the giant empire of xendriik seems to be a topic for Exploring eberron or one f the other books that keith has voiced interest in writing.

 

[Coroc]

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It's like saying the only thing important to know about Brazil is it's a predominantly Catholic country. really?
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Sorry in advance for the derail:

As i have had a wife from Latin america, i know the following:
The way considered "more noble" ( i do not know how to say this better so sorry and no offense for anybody and i respect all beliefs) of Christianity in most Latin American country is Protestantism (mostly some baptistic form), which has also the more puritanistic rules which was to my surprise, because at my country (Luther-) Protestantism is seen as the less strict compared to Catolicism.

On the other hand, almost everybody practises some sort of vodoo to, which is not seen as contradictive to christianity.

Sorry if i broke some forum guidelines here, my intent was just to tell some (outside of Latin America) not so well known facts, and are in no way to devalue any form of believe.

Mods, feel free to delete this post if you consider it offensive in some way.

 

[Parmandur]

On page 232, Eberron Rising says as fact: "The three progenitor wyrms recreated the elves found throughout the multiverse and placed them in their new world, beyond the reach of Corellon."

The polytheistic gods of the Forgotten Realms officially exist in Eberron. The god Corellon officially exists in Eberron. The Corellon-spawn elves officially exist in Eberron. The elves on the planet of Eberron are recreated duplicates of the Corellon-spawn elves. Officially.

Corellon is not a Forgotten Realms God, he's a D&D God from outside the Realms.

 

[Parmandur]

It is not fact, it is indeed fiction.

The book publishing lists disagree...

 

[doctorbadwolf]

On page 232, Eberron Rising says as fact: "The three progenitor wyrms recreated the elves found throughout the multiverse and placed them in their new world, beyond the reach of Corellon."

The polytheistic gods of the Forgotten Realms officially exist in Eberron. The god Corellon officially exists in Eberron. The Corellon-spawn elves officially exist in Eberron. The elves on the planet of Eberron are recreated duplicates of the Corellon-spawn elves. Officially.

Corellon doesn’t originate in FR.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Well... I don't agree with @Yaarel, but he/she/they isn't actually just making it up. MToF does state that all Elves are the progeny of Corellon.

Well, in a way, it does.

Corellon doesn’t originate in the Realms.

 

[Parmandur]

Well... I don't agree with @Yaarel, but he/she/they isn't actually just making it up. MToF does state that all Elves are the progeny of Corellon.

Well, in a way, it does.

Again, for starters, Corellon is not a FR specific deity, but yes the Corellon myth is the assumed standard for D&D Elves. However, this book does offer an alternative while retaining the possibility of a relationship depending on DM desires.

This book is very well set-up to allow everyone to make their own Eberron.

 

[generic]

Again, for starters, Corellon is not a FR specific deity, but yes the Corellon myth is the assumed standard for D&D Elves. However, this book does offer an alternative while retaining the possibility of a relationship depending on DM desires.

This book is very well set-up to allow everyone to make their own Eberron.

Sorry, I misunderstood the context of the disagreement. Thanks to @PsyzhranV2 for the clarification.