Eternals (Spoilers)

[Gammadoodler]

Near omniscience.

Unless Ego didn't care and/or Celestials are capable of hiding things from each other. Ego's name isn't ironic.

Or the other Celestials are kinda lazy, and can't be bothered.

 

[MarkB]

Or the other Celestials are kinda lazy, and can't be bothered.

Then again, maybe I'm giving Ego too much credit. Maybe he didn't really know too much about the other Celestials, and actually planets made of blue Ego-goo would be even more nutritious to their embryonic Celestial occupants than planets covered in pesky humanoids.

 

[Gammadoodler]

Then again, maybe I'm giving Ego too much credit. Maybe he didn't really know too much about the other Celestials, and actually planets made of blue Ego-goo would be even more nutritious to their embryonic Celestial occupants than planets covered in pesky humanoids.

Also possible. In fact, that's an even better result for them. No more babysitting for those worlds.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

I watched Eternals recently. Okay movie, I'd say. Some very interesting ideas.

I agree with some others that I don't like the "ancient astronauts" aspect much, and the whole spiela bout Celestials birthing stars... well, science in the MCU is often naughty word, but this was probably the worst.

But seeing Eternals and then a few days later seeing images from the vulcano in tonga was... strange.

 

[Blue]

Then again, maybe I'm giving Ego too much credit. Maybe he didn't really know too much about the other Celestials,

It was established in GoG2 that Ego was all alone. He had never met another Celestial.

 

[pukunui]

It was established in GoG2 that Ego was all alone. He had never met another Celestial.

I've seen some conjecture that Ego was lying about being a Celestial since he isn't a big armored cyborg thing. I wonder, though, if maybe he was one of the original Celestials like Arishem, only he somehow never progressed beyond developing a brain, and that's why he hasn't got the body armor. His method of planting a seed of himself inother planets is like a twisted version of the normal Celestial birthing method after all.

 

[BrokenTwin]

Assuming Ego is a Celestial in the Eternals sense and him being one isn't just quietly ignored/retconned, he might be the equivalent of a premature birth. Whatever world he was being born from may have been lost/abandoned/destroyed.

But heck, it's possible that he's just something completely unrelated that didn't know what he was, heard tales about Celestials, and went "yeah, that sounds like me!"

 

[Ryujin]

Assuming Ego is a Celestial in the Eternals sense and him being one isn't just quietly ignored/retconned, he might be the equivalent of a premature birth. Whatever world he was being born from may have been lost/abandoned/destroyed.

But heck, it's possible that he's just something completely unrelated that didn't know what he was, heard tales about Celestials, and went "yeah, that sounds like me!"

IIRC he wasn't a Celestial in the comics, but the MCU is doing some funky stuff with origins. Originally I think he was an alien scientist who evolved (?) somehow. It's been more than a while since I read the original stuff.

If I was to try and fit him into the MCU based on the information that it has presented then I would say thay he's a Celestial who is more about extending his own domain, rather than creating progeny. That would explain the difference in his methods.

 

[MarkB]

I've seen some conjecture that Ego was lying about being a Celestial since he isn't a big armored cyborg thing. I wonder, though, if maybe he was one of the original Celestials like Arishem, only he somehow never progressed beyond developing a brain, and that's why he hasn't got the body armor. His method of planting a seed of himself inother planets is like a twisted version of the normal Celestial birthing method after all.

My guess would be that Ego is what happens when a Celestial embryo doesn't get properly implanted inside a planet. Maybe he was lost in transit somehow, and the other Celestials assumed he'd died.

 

[pukunui]

My guess would be that Ego is what happens when a Celestial embryo doesn't get properly implanted inside a planet. Maybe he was lost in transit somehow, and the other Celestials assumed he'd died.

Yep, or maybe he was an early experiment to see if Celestials could be created without needing to be implanted in a planet first.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

Here is a side note for future MCU/Fantastic Four stuff. It seems in the comics that Galactus was actually afraid of Tiamut, and now the MCU version of Tiamut is dead. If that is used at all in the MCU, maybe they just shift this fear to be about a different Celestial or maybe Galactus will have no fear if/when he does show up. But also considering in the comics that Arishem and Tiamut were rivals, having Tiamut just being born now throws all that out the window. And wow, did they decide to upsize the Celestials a lot for the MCU. According to the comics history of the Celestials, there are at least three that are buried on Earth. I know almost nothing of them from the comic books, so this was a crazy read:

Celestials

Celestials are powerful cosmic beings created by the First Firmament. The Celestials rebelled against their creator and Aspirant counterparts in a war that shattered the first universe into the first multiverse. The Celestials are involved in the creation of new universes, including that of the...

marvel.fandom.com

 

[MarkB]

One other possibility regarding how different Ego is from the other Celestials is that maybe the term "Celestial" is more of a general classification of beings that operate at a certain cosmic scale. There could be as many types of Celestial as there are species of mammal.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Hypothesis: Ego was deliberately targeting the other celestials. All the worlds where he planted his seeds contained embryonic celestials, the purpose of the seeds was to absorb their power. All the "I'm so lonely" stuff was nothing but a sob story to try and get Peter onside. In which case he would have taken steps to make certain his activities where concealed from any other celestials.

Maybe Ego tinkered with the deviants in order to create a distraction.

 

[Gammadoodler]

One other possibility regarding how different Ego is from the other Celestials is that maybe the term "Celestial" is more of a general classification of beings that operate at a certain cosmic scale. There could be as many types of Celestial as there are species of mammal.

So basically like the creatures rolling marbles at the end of the first Men in Black movie.

 

[MarkB]

So basically like the creatures rolling marbles at the end of the first Men in Black movie.

I feel like those were maybe an order of magnitude or two larger-scale than the Marvel celestials we've seen so far.

 

[Gammadoodler]

I feel like those were maybe an order of magnitude or two larger-scale than the Marvel celestials we've seen so far.

Fair, though I'd submit that they do operate ar a certain cosmic scale.

 

[Ryujin]

It could also well be that Celestials appear at whatever size they feel the need to.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

It could also well be that Celestials appear at whatever size they feel the need to.

So, you are saying Arishem is overcompensating for something?

 

[Ryujin]

So, you are saying Arishem is overcompensating for something?

You only need to be 12 feet tall to intimidate a human. Eternals? Moon-sized.

 

[Mezuka]

My wife and I are with the critics on this one. While we liked the backstory, the movie was boring for us. We could not relate to any of the characters and the acting was wooden. A good thing we saw it on Disney+ for 'free' instead of paying full price.