Event Horizon

[TracerBullet42]

As for Weir not having eyes, he apparently does not need them, as he is blind when he rigs up the bomb on the Clark.

Aaron.

I figured he didn't need them, since he was "seeing" without them for a while at the point...it just seemed like the thing to say when the "no-eyed man" says "What makes you think I'll miss?"

I mean, come on...wouldn't you say it? I know I would...but maybe I'm just a butt-head.

This was just one of the most disappointing movie experiences I've ever had, so I don't see why so many people think this movie is so great, and I was suprised to see it pop up on the message board, since it's got to be 5 or 6 years old by now...

I'll stop posting about it now, though, since everyone is probably sick of hearing me complain about it...

I just didn't like it.

Ok, I'm done now.

 

[paulewaug]

The First time I watched it I thought it was kind of creepy and pretty 'gross'
As I said and as has been said, I found it to be very Hellraiser like.
The "flashbacks" to what happened to the crew are definitely done to make you think "whoa" and I don't doubt the ship went to Hell

Having said that I did watch it with my wife the first time and that does probably tend to color my judgment as to what is "gross" and "creepy"

But this last time I watched it I thought it was pretty enjoyable for a Hellship Spookhouse. The only things I noticed that really kind of put me off, ichnographically was...

When they get to the E.H. they are going down the central corridor and they come across the boxes that are to "blow the ship in half so the crew can use the bridge (or whatever) as a lifeboat." The first thing I thought was...Gee talk about Foreshadowing!!! There is only one reason for those to be there and that is so they can blow them at the end of the movie because otherwise they would All be screwed!! (I have Really started to notice stuff like this in movies,
I don't want to be a movie snob but the foreshadowing has become Way to obvious in so many movies....)

And then a week "action" editing acting scene at the end when (Laurence) is going to blow the ship-attachement-bomb-"thingys" and as he hits the detonator Weir
(? Sam) holds out his arms rather stiffly and looking into the camera goes "No!" It was such a cut chop sconce with no real action on Weirs part...Here he is this malevolent entity that apparently can not be harmed and must Really like Pain and the best he can do is Just stand there and stiffly raise his arms and say "No."
Come on...He should have ripped a rib out of his body and thrown it at the Captain or at least tried to dive at him or something...

And then "Baby bear" (whatever the heck his name was)
it sucked for him to get sucked in and it was ok that he was all "evil nasty creepy wrong thing guy" but then he is all (In the airlock) "I want to die, if you saw the things I saw you would want to die too!" (I am thinking NO $#!+ dude!)
And then just before the airlock blows he all of a sudden is like.."What's going on...?" (Dude did you just forget going to hell?! uh huh...OK let him get sucked into space!)

OK just some nitpicks....
I did think it was a good cast though, several people that have made some other good (imo) movies. The nasty bad guy from The Patriot, Sam Neil, Laurence Fishburn (I thought he was excellent in this movie.)

Some good lines though..
One I can think of that I especially liked was right when they get to the EH and the initial entry crew (Fishburn I'm pretty sure was the one who said it) and Sam asks "Any sign of the crew yet?" and Fishburn goes "If we had found anything you would know!"
It doesn’t seem funny typed out.... But it was pretty funny when he said it!! he he

I can't wait for the re-make!! I bet in another, oh lets say 5-10 years?!
Come on you know it's going to happen!!
bwahah!!

I'll watch it again the next time it's on though
ut what do I know!?
I though "Signs" was creepy and that "the Ring" was Not so......
...YMMV and all that!

(I am not saying I didn't like The Ring, I just didn't find it scary..but that is a different topic )

 

[Look_a_Unicorn]

I'm not much of a movie critic- I take most with a grain of salt (hey, I couldn't do better), but after reading all the negative reviews I'm gald I saw the movie in the way I did: Possibly the best way to see this movie...

It was a Thursday night, late & I'd gotten sick of studying for exams. I knew my friends would be either studying or in bed, so fora break I went to see what was on. A poster on the wall of the Cinema introduced me to Event Horizon, my first thought "Cool, a sci-fi movie!" (I was a sci-fi/fantasy addict way back then too).

Late at night, two or three other people in the theater & expecting a standard sci-fi movie.

Was really enjoying the creepiness of it, but it wasn't registering that just MAYBE this wasn't straight sci-fi. But gradually my eyes got wider & wider as my hands started to grip the armrests in appalled fascination.

...

I won't go on, but suffice to say I walked out of that movie grinning from ear-to-ear from the adrenaline & thrilled feeling the movie gave me. I don't doubt I would not have enjoyed it as much if I hadn't seen it in those conditions. I guess I was the lucky one

Ever since that movie, and a similar situation with Dark City, I've been realising more & more that how much I enjoy a movie is inversely proportional to the amount of trailers/reviews/opinions that have in one way or another caused the analytical part of my brain to go to work during the movie- and thus disengaging my absorption & suspension of disbelief.
There are no such things as flawless movies, but discovering the flaws only makes a movie worse.

Does anyone else deliberately avoid watching ads or listening to reviews/friend's opinions on movies that you're interested in?
I find trailors are ok, there's normally enough gap between seeing the trailor & seeing the movie for it to not matter.

 

[Psion]

Hated it. Sam Neill was not meant to do horror.

The problem a lot of people have with Event horizon is that they wwcth it as a science fiction movie, when ot's really a Lovecraftian science/fantasy/horror movie.

Not exactly. It strikes me much more in the vein of Clive Barker than HPL.

 

[paulewaug]

OH God yes!

(With the exception of all parts of the LotR's trilogy since I have read the book and Love the movies)
If I think I may want to see a movie I will usually try to avoid trailers, commercials, and sep Reviews(!) as much as possible.
I feel similar to the feeling you expressed, all of these things impact my enjoyment of a movie one way or the other.

And Critics suck, they never like movies I like and always like movies I hate maybe I just have bad taste

 

[Caliber]

I really liked Event Horizon. The whole broadcast message in Latin was spooky. And of course while they were watching the video of the original crew and they were all being torn apart ....

As for the Director, I too, enjoyed Soldier. Not immensely. But eh, I've seen worse.

Now Mortal Kombat .... eeesh. Thats all I have to say.

 

[Kesh]

re: "Baby Bear" the impression I believe the writers were going for was that the ship had possessed him, and once the airlock cycled... well, it didn't want to hang 'round in his brain. So the normal him comes back... and he sure as heck doesn't want to be in the airlock!

As for shooting at the 'non threatening target', haven't you ever flinched or jumped in surprise when someone comes up beside you that you hadn't noticed? He was in a tense situation, where he thought he had all the angles covered... and then thunk! I figured he snapped off the shot in surprise, something that can be very common in combat situations from what I've been told.

Like I said, it was a decent film marred by being rushed into production. A little more work with the screenplay would've done wonders for it.

 

[jester47]

re: "Baby Bear" the impression I believe the writers were going for was that the ship had possessed him, and once the airlock cycled... well, it didn't want to hang 'round in his brain. So the normal him comes back... and he sure as heck doesn't want to be in the airlock!

As for shooting at the 'non threatening target', haven't you ever flinched or jumped in surprise when someone comes up beside you that you hadn't noticed? He was in a tense situation, where he thought he had all the angles covered... and then thunk! I figured he snapped off the shot in surprise, something that can be very common in combat situations from what I've been told.

Like I said, it was a decent film marred by being rushed into production. A little more work with the screenplay would've done wonders for it.

I agree with the shooting the non-threat. I figure with whatever ESP he has he sort of has to focus it. Then when he hears a bump where noone is supposed to be he thinks that someone has put one over on him. Fire away!

As for "Baby Bear" I think you are partially right. I think he was possessed but he was still struggleing. And so the only way to get rid of the possession was death. When the entity realised that it could not completely control him (like it does using weir's pain for his wife) then it decided to take off.

I thought the movie was ok. As a film it needs some work, but the overall effect freaks me out and makes me never want to be an astronaut for about a week after I see it! I think the weakest part is that you are not really ever told what was happening. This can be good up until a point, but you need a moment of revelation to the viewer, ala The Usual Suspects for the confusion to work. But that is easier to do in crime than it is to do in horror. It was that weakness tha made me start this thread.

TracerBullet42, I completely see what you are saying as I mumbled the same words! I thought you did not understand that he could see "somehow." But yeah, that would have been a great line!

Aaron.

 

[Abraxas]

I'm in the it was a "B" movie that I liked. Could it have been better - yep, but it could have been so very much worse also.

I saw it first in a new theatre complex, in one of these small, stadium seating type theatres - the screen took up the entirew field of view - gave it a total immersion effect, which probably had a lot to do with why I liked it.

TracerBullet42, they couldn't use a "because you've got no eyes" line because they had just had the "Dr. Weir, what happened to your eyes?" - "Where we're going you won't need eyes." exchange.

 

[Darrin Drader]

I'm in the it was a "B" movie that I liked. Could it have been better - yep, but it could have been so very much worse also.

Yep, but now that I remember back, the Baby Bear bit was kind of lame. Anyone who calls a person over the age of 5 Baby Bear needs to have hteir head examined.