Falcon and winter solider

[MarkB]

His current suit was described as Stark-tech during the cafe scene. And we know he lost the wings in Winter Soldier so it would have to be rebuilt or recreated. It also had technology like Redwing that it didn't originally have. So it's a pretty safe bet that his current suit is not the original suit, and therefore not owned by the USAF.

Yes, I know the wiki only has a single page. But that page isn't doesn't include the recent information that what he has now is Stark-tech. I guess it could be pre-Iron Man, when Stark Industries was selling munitions and weapons of war.

However, the current episode has Redwing having been used to track him, accessed legitimately rather than hacked, because it's military property.

Whether that's because it was built by the military, or because the integration of the Avengers into multinational military control via the Sokovia accords made it technically their property, they apparently have full access to Sam's tech.

Not that they particularly needed it in order to track him, given that he flew out of a military base in a military transport plane to get where he was going.

 

[trappedslider]

His current suit was described as Stark-tech during the cafe scene. And we know he lost the wings in Winter Soldier so it would have to be rebuilt or recreated. It also had technology like Redwing that it didn't originally have. So it's a pretty safe bet that his current suit is not the original suit, and therefore not owned by the USAF.

"You hacked my tech?"
"It's not exactly hacking, it's government property."

 

[wicked cool]

I was clearly wrong on my assessment of racism in the banker scene. After this weeks episode it’s clearly intentional that the writers want us to see racism

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Another great episode. It was much more fast-paced than the previous episode. The Flag Smashers are interesting. I wonder how they got the Super-Soldier Serum, what those vaccines are (if they are vaccines), and why they're being painted as much more human than many other Marvel villains. Maybe these villains will be like Killmonger in the sense that they have a point, while still having evil intentions.

If those vaccines are actually vaccines . . . that leads to the conclusion that they, or whoever is after them, is seeking to release some deadly disease. If they do this, I wonder what message they would be trying to send, as we are currently experiencing a global pandemic.

If the vaccine is the Super-Soldier Serum, who are they going to give it to, and why?

Just some thoughts. Overall great episode. I'm totally on board for the term "Big Three" for Aliens, Androids, and Wizards.

 

[MarkB]

If those vaccines are actually vaccines . . . that leads to the conclusion that they, or whoever is after them, is seeking to release some deadly disease. If they do this, I wonder what message they would be trying to send, as we are currently experiencing a global pandemic.

If they truly want to return the world to the state it was in during the Blip, then unleashing something that kills a large percentage of the population would be a rather direct way to do that.

So far, they don't necessarily seem quite that ruthless, though.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

Another great episode. It was much more fast-paced than the previous episode. The Flag Smashers are interesting. I wonder how they got the Super-Soldier Serum, what those vaccines are (if they are vaccines), and why they're being painted as much more human than many other Marvel villains. Maybe these villains will be like Killmonger in the sense that they have a point, while still having evil intentions.

If those vaccines are actually vaccines . . . that leads to the conclusion that they, or whoever is after them, is seeking to release some deadly disease. If they do this, I wonder what message they would be trying to send, as we are currently experiencing a global pandemic.

If the vaccine is the Super-Soldier Serum, who are they going to give it to, and why?

Just some thoughts. Overall great episode. I'm totally on board for the term "Big Three" for Aliens, Androids, and Wizards.

Well, they specifically named the Power Broker, who is probably the main villain, or co-villain? In the comics, his company was making super soldiers, including injecting it into Walker, his sidekick Lemar, and Sam's friend Torres. So we will see how many of them actually get it in the show. And it was the Power Broker that the Flag Smashers have been stealing from, probably including the super serum that was used on them? Or they were created by him and then escaped.

 

[Stalker0]

I don't know, he seemed genuinely wanting to do good.

Unfortunately Marvel has a tendency to go too black and white for my taste. They started him out legitimate, genuine good guy, wants to do the right thing, has an honest and true bada** military record to back it up. Honestly they made him look in the right initially, with Bucky and Falcon coming off as childish.

But even by the end of the episode we are seeing a bit more "dickish" behavior, and considering how in Wandavision the director of SWORD went from a decent looking human being in the first episode, to literally shooting at children by the end....I don't have a lot of hope in an actual multifaceted character.

 

[Older Beholder]

Unfortunately Marvel has a tendency to go too black and white for my taste.

Given on these forums in the WandaVision thread people have argued:
if Wanda was a hero or villain
if Agatha was a hero or villain
if the SWORD guy did anything wrong

I‘s say they do an OK job in the grey areas.

Also, Bucky has probably killed more people than most villains on the show and the next TV show coming out stars Loki

 

[Stalker0]

Given on these forums in the WandaVision thread people have argued:
if Wanda was a hero or villain
if Agatha was a hero or villain
if the SWORD guy did anything wrong

I‘s say they do an OK job in the grey areas.

Also, Bucky has probably killed more people than most villains on the show and the next TV show coming out stars Loki

Eh that's a fair point. Well here's hoping, as I would love to see some more multifaceted interesting characters!

 

[hawkeyefan]

I’m really glad that Walker isn’t some snarling, overzealous thug or anything so one note. It actually makes it trickier if he’s basically a good guy.

I imagine we’ll see him fail to fill Steve’s shoes in some manner, though...validating Sam as Steve’s true successor. But we’ll see.

All in all a good episode. Sam and Bucky...or Mackie and Stan, I suppose...have good chemistry and play off each other well. Solid character work from them both.

Curious to see where things are going with the Flagsmashers and the Power Broker. Some ideas from the comics seem likely, but I’m sure some things’ll play out different.

Very surprised to see Isaiah. And I suppose that was Eli living with him! Six of the eight Young Avengers are now officially in the MCU (or will be once Hawkeye arrives).

One thing that kind of bugged me....does Bucky have enhanced abilities beyond the arm? First he took that fall from the plane and then he caught up to a truck as it was speeding away. I don’t recall if there were ever any hints that he’d been otherwise enhanced, but that was the impression I got here.