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D&D 5E Fizban's Treasury Dragons Ranked By Challenge Rating

WotC has been sending out previews of Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, due out next month, to folks on Twitter. Amongst those are art pieces and other items.

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By Challenge Rating the dragons in the book are:
  • Ancient crystal (19)
  • Ancient topaz (20)
  • Ancient emerald (21)
  • Ancient moonstone (21)
  • Ancient sapphire (22)
  • Elder brain dragon (22)
  • Ancient amethyst (23)
  • Ancient dragon turtle (24)
  • Gem greatwyrm (26)
  • Chromatic greatwyrm (27)
  • Metallic greatwyrm (28)
  • Apects of Bahamut and Tiamat (30)
Interestingly, it appears that the great wyrm category is divided into three -- gem, chromatic, metallic -- rather than by each dragon type.

There's also an alphabetical list of all 20 dragon types in the book:
  • Amethyst
  • Black
  • Blue
  • Brass
  • Bronze
  • Copper
  • Crystal
  • Deep
  • Dragon turtle
  • Emerald
  • Faerie
  • Gold
  • Green
  • Moonstone
  • Red
  • Sapphire
  • Shadow
  • Silver
  • Topaz
  • White
 
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Russ Morrissey

Russ Morrissey

I'm assuming that those are just the top-tier CRs, as we know that the gem dragons (and presumably others in the book as well) will very likely have lower-level CRs for the earlier age categories.

Also, as I said on the other thread on this, it's interesting to see that the faerie dragon and shadow dragon made the cut for the in-depth 20!
 


Parmandur

Book-Friend
I'm assuming that those are just the top-tier CRs, as we know that the gem dragons (and presumably others in the book as well) will very likely have lower-level CRs for the earlier age categories.

Also, as I said on the other thread on this, it's interesting to see that the faerie dragon and shadow dragon made the cut for the in-depth 20!
So condensing that list down a bit it looks like there will be dedicated fluff sections ala Volo's Guide to Monsters for 20 types of Dragon:

  • the 5 Metallic types (expanded from the MM)
  • the 5 Chromatic types (expanded from the MM)
  • the 5 Gem types (not in the MM for 5E)
  • Deep Dragons (not in the MM for 5E)
  • Dragon Turtles (expanded from the MM)
  • Fairie Dragons (expanded from the MM)
  • Moonstone Dragons (not in the MM for 5E)
  • Shadow Dragons (expanded from a template in the MM)

The 5 choices outside of the three major groupings are fascinating, I am curious about the lore involved there.
 

So condensing that list down a bit it looks like there will be dedicated fluff sections ala Volo's Guide to Monsters for 20 types of Dragon:

  • the 5 Metallic types (expanded from the MM)
  • the 5 Chromatic types (expanded from the MM)
  • the 5 Gem types (not in the MM for 5E)
  • Deep Dragons (not in the MM for 5E)
  • Dragon Turtles (expanded from the MM)
  • Fairie Dragons (expanded from the MM)
  • Moonstone Dragons (not in the MM for 5E)
  • Shadow Dragons (expanded from a template in the MM)

The 5 choices outside of the three major groupings are fascinating, I am curious about the lore involved there.
Faerie dragon coverage was something completely unexpected, and I'm definitely intrigued. It's something I really hadn't much thought of before!

I do hope that steel dragons get some sort of coverage, perhaps using silver dragons as a template for stats, like was done in Dungeon of the Mad Mage...
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
Faerie dragon coverage was something completely unexpected, and I'm definitely intrigued. It's something I really hadn't much thought of before!

I do hope that steel dragons get some sort of coverage, perhaps using silver dragons as a template for stats, like was done in Dungeon of the Mad Mage...
I hadn't given it a huge amount of thought, but Fairie Dragons have big RP potential as friendly NPCs (even patrons for PCs, potentially), so having tables for random Fairie Dragon personalities actually makes a lot of sense.
 


cbwjm

Hero
Reading about this book is making me want to run a council of wyrms campaign/one-shot. Play as a dragon? Yes please! I could probably use the dragon stat blocks and allow some changes for each player so that we end up with dragon-mages, dragon-priests, and dragon-psychics in addition to the standard dragon. Maybe also throw in the dragon-sage.

I'm definitely looking forward to this book, dragons have always captivated me and I enjoy reading any books released in each edition that deals with them.
 





AcererakTriple6

Autistic DM (he/him)
Elder.

Brain.

Dragon.
I'm assuming that it's an Elder Brain that acts like an Intellect Devourer (replaces the brain of the dragon and takes control of the body). If that's the case, that's freaky and awesome! If it's not, that's how they're going to work in my games! (I'd also probably replace their breath weapon with a flurry of tentacles that come out of the Dragon's mouth and attack and grab enemies.)
 

MarkB

Legend
I'm assuming that it's an Elder Brain that acts like an Intellect Devourer (replaces the brain of the dragon and takes control of the body). If that's the case, that's freaky and awesome! If it's not, that's how they're going to work in my games! (I'd also probably replace their breath weapon with a flurry of tentacles that come out of the Dragon's mouth and attack and grab enemies.)
It could be that they've bred special tadpoles to infest dragons, as they did for beholders, and the resulting being automatically has power equivalent to an Elder Brain.

I'm guessing it'll have a psychic damage breath weapon, and probably the ability to tentacle-grapple multiple opponents, and maybe extract their brains en masse.
 

Hopefully the Great Wyrms preserve the differences between the varieties rather than replacing them. They might be some sort of template, but it's odd that a template would preserve the CR. It's probably more likely that it's a complete stat block that list different breath weapons and immunities based on the variety. If they make the stats higher than any of the individual species that's workable. Hopefully they know all the skills and such of the constituents rather than forgetting things in their old age.
 

AcererakTriple6

Autistic DM (he/him)
It could be that they've bred special tadpoles to infest dragons, as they did for beholders, and the resulting being automatically has power equivalent to an Elder Brain.
That was a thing in previous editions, called a Brainstealer Dragon. I'm assuming these two are at least a little different lore-wise, otherwise why would they bother with using a different name?
I'm guessing it'll have a psychic damage breath weapon, and probably the ability to tentacle-grapple multiple opponents, and maybe extract their brains en masse.
That's probably fairly likely.
 

I think I'll buy this one and finally gather the courage to make a huge epic campaign mixing Lost Mines + Dragon of Icepeak + Tyranny of Dragon + Red Hand of DOOM and Storm King's Thunder.
You can totally have the Dragon Slaying sword in Dragon of Icepeak become an upgradable weapon so that way, by the time you get to the End Game portion of Tyranny of Dragons, It's a fully Legendary/Artifact type weapon.
 




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