GAME OF THRONES #10:Fire and Blood ACT 10 Chapter 1-2011--Season Ending

[Raunalyn]

Steel_Wind, I see your point. However, in her recent pictures, she still looks quite youthful. Here's one from IMDB:

Photos of Natalie Dormer

Yes, here she looks in her mid to late 20's, but I think her hair and her make-up contribute to that. I don't think it would be difficult in the least to make her look a bit younger, like someone in her early twenties (which, if you go with the 2 to 3 year aging that the Stark children went through, then she would look the proper age).

She's a beautiful woman, and Margaery is supposed to be one of the most beautiful women in the 7 kingdoms. I, too, am curious why they go someone with some obvious acting chops to play a character that doesn't have much of a role until later in the series. I'm curious if they will give her a stronger role.

I do hope they don't write out the Queen of Thorns...I like her.

 

[dravot]

Thus far, of course, Marjorie has had the misfortune to be married to three men (well, a man and two boys) who have had little desire and/or opportunity to see her naked.

Spoilers for anything beyond season 1 are really not appreciated. I'm reading the other books, right now, and you just ruined a major plot point for me.

 

[Mark CMG]

Dormer? What's wrong with Alessandra Torresani for that part?

 

[Steel_Wind]

Dormer? What's wrong with Alessandra Torresani for that part?

My guess is that: (1) the accent might prove a problem; (2) she doesn't have the acting skills of Dormer; and (3) she doesn't have the history of being a fan fave of subscribers who like to watch medieval costume dramas on premium cable?

I don't think her past as being cast in an unsuccessful genre series assists her. For the most part, they want to avoid appeal to that fan base through casting as they already have attracted those fans (as they see it). Certainly, they have never featured that street cred as part of their press material in connection with casting Lena Heady as Cersei (Sara Connor Chronicles).

Other than that, not much. I'd agree with you she looks the part perfectly, and at 24, is a better age.

Doesn't matter. Dormer has been signed so ... done is done.

 

[Mark CMG]

My guess is that: (1) the accent might prove a problem; (2) she doesn't have the acting skills of Dormer; and (3) she doesn't have the history of being a fan fave of subscribers who like to watch medieval costume dramas on premium cable?

I don't think her past as being cast in an unsuccessful genre series assists her. For the most part, they want to avoid appeal to that fan base through casting as they already have attracted those fans (as they see it). Certainly, they have never featured that street cred as part of their press material in connection with casting Lena Heady as Cersei (Sara Connor Chronicles).

Other than that, not much. I'd agree with you she looks the part perfectly, and at 24, is a better age.

Doesn't matter. Dormer has been signed so ... done is done.

Agreed mostly all around. Dormer is fairly one note, IMO, though. They might have gone with Georgie Henley, I suppose for the right age. I'd imagine she'd have the accent, and chops from her Chronicles experience. Maybe too young to age through the role.

 

[Herremann the Wise]

I think Dormer in the role of Margaery is full of win. In some ways, I like seeing the TV series differentiate itself slightly from the books; not in terms of fundamental storylines but in terms of nuance and perhaps an altered characterization (Shae for example, who I certainly like). I think Dormer might give the writers the chance to do this and do it really well.

I think now that the season is complete, I can well and truly trust Benioff and Weiss; and if they play with the material, I'm going to look forward to seeing what they do with it.

Best Regards
Herremann the Wise

 

[jonesy]

Aging Robb and Margaery diminishes both characters. You lose a part of the aspect of them as young people who are extremely capable. When Robb captures Jamie in the books it comes across as something completely different, because they have two whole decades of experience between them. Same thing when Margaery faces against the Lannisters. It changes their performance from well above par to just par.

 

[Remus Lupin]

Well, maybe, but even Martin says he wishes he'd aged the characters a bit more in the books when he wrote them. And there's still two decades separating the protagonists from the antagonists (if those terms are even meaningful in the context of this story).

PS., Psst. Don't mention that Margaery faces off against the Lannisters. Don't you know that's a spoiler?!

 

[jonesy]

PS., Psst. Don't mention that Margaery faces off against the Lannisters. Don't you know that's a spoiler?!

But,

Spoiler

even the Lannisters face off against the Lannisters.

Maybe we should start a book spoilers thread after A Dance With Dragons is out.

 

[Remus Lupin]

Some casting possibilities for Stannis here!

Casting Season Two: Stannis - Winter Is Coming

I'm hearing rumors that Eccelston is high on the possibility list, but Rufus Sewell would be a good choice as well, AFAIC.

 

[Kzach]

Dormer? What's wrong with Alessandra Torresani for that part?

'cause she's butt fugly?

I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but come on, this is meant to be one of the most beautiful women in the known world... Alessandra doesn't fit that description even in the slightest. At least Dormer is on the hot tomali train, if not exactly setting it ablaze.

As far as Stannis goes, Mark Strong is the only one that remotely resembles the character out of all the suggestions on that site. I can't believe any of the other suggestions are even suggestions when they have nothing at all in common with the character.

 

[Fast Learner]

'cause she's butt fugly?

Wow, that's... insane. I mean, she's definitely not "most beautiful woman in the world" material in the Margaery sense, but "butt fugly"?

I do not want whatever it is you've been smoking.

 

[catsclaw227]

'cause she's butt fugly?

Huh?

All due respect to the women on the board, but I am about to ask a typically male question...

Kzach, are you claiming that she doesn't do it for you, or that if the situation offered itself, you wouldn't invite that beauty into your, ahem... bed?

(we are talking Game of Thrones... lots of male and female nudity abound).

 

[Raunalyn]

I find Allesandra extremely adorable, but I agree; not Maergary Tyrell beautiful.

 

[catsclaw227]

But neither is Natalie Dormer the same level of beauty. She's attractive, but I don't see her as stunning as Maergary Tyrell is supposed to be. I don't like the thin-lipped look she brings.

 

[Kzach]

Kzach, are you claiming that she doesn't do it for you, or that if the situation offered itself, you wouldn't invite that beauty into your, ahem... bed?

I'd say no but who would believe me? Some of us aren't desperate enough to bag anything that walks. I don't find her attractive, even in the slightest. Then again, I don't find Dormer attractive either, but she's far prettier than Torresani.

Given the gazillions of actresses who would murder whole flocks of people for this job, it's a bit disappointing that they can't be bothered to find someone more suitable for the role.

 

[TarionzCousin]

They can find a big, not so attractive girl to play Brienne. I hope they don't use prosthetics. I hope they find a girl that would probably never make it in acting normally to play Brienne.

...

I hope they go find some big wrestler woman, weight lifter, or simply a big farm girl that wants to act. Dress her up in some armor and let her kick some behind.

I hope they find a good actress. In my humble opinion, Brienne is a difficult role and pivotal in the development of Jamie's personality. I want an actress who can be convincing emotionally. If she is plain and tall, that's great. But ability is much more important to me.

 

[Jan van Leyden]

I'd say no but who would believe me? Some of us aren't desperate enough to bag anything that walks. I don't find her attractive, even in the slightest. Then again, I don't find Dormer attractive either, but she's far prettier than Torresani.

Given the gazillions of actresses who would murder whole flocks of people for this job, it's a bit disappointing that they can't be bothered to find someone more suitable for the role.

The subjective assessment of the actresses' looks aside, I'm more interested with their acting abilities. We're talking about an acting job here, not a modeling one.

 

[Kzach]

This is who should play Margaery:

She is pretty spot on for how I pictured the character. Plus she can act!

 

[Remus Lupin]

Well, the question I have is whether the actress slated to play Margaery looks a lot like the actor who plays Loras, since they were apparently supposed to resemble one another closely enough to be twins.