Giving EP to group with lvl differences?

melkoriii

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OK Lets say I have a party of:
Two lvl 3
One lvl 4
One lvl 5
and one lvl 6

How would I give EP if they found and killed 4 CR Ghasts CR 3 mobs?

The way I have seen it done is take the CR of the mob a cross reference it with the lvl of the PC and give that amount divided by the number in the party (this case 5) Do this for each mob for each PC.

Is this right?
 

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Take the XP for the monster's CR for each player's level. Total the results for all monsters in the encounter for that player ONLY, and divide by the number of people in the party. Repeat as needed. That's how I'd handle it, at any rate.
 
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That's also how I handle it... that way characters who spend XP to create stuff don't get penalized by working the the party's higher ECL.
 

melkoriii said:
The way I have seen it done is take the CR of the mob a cross reference it with the lvl of the PC and give that amount divided by the number in the party (this case 5) Do this for each mob for each PC.

Is this right?

Not exactly. That works if all the monsters have the same CR, but if not, it doesn't work. You have to remember that XP is calculated using Challenge Rating, not Encounter Level.

You have two options. You can use the DMG method or the FRCS method.

In the DMG method, you determine the average level of the party (round down). In your case, the average party level is a 4. Now, reference the 4 to the CR of each individual monster to get your XP amount. Total all of the XP up, then divide it evenly among the party. What ends up happening is that your 3rd level guy doesn't get as much XP as he should have. He's 3rd level, but he's considered 4th going against a CR 3 monster. Your 4th level guy is unaffected, but your 5th and 6th level guys end up getting more XP than they should have.

In the FRCS method, you calculate the XP earned on an individual basis. For example, take the 3rd level guy. You would calculate his XP for defeating the monsters in the encounter. Then you would take that total amount of XP and divide it by 4 (the number of people in the party). The result is how much XP he gets for the encounter. Rinse and repeat for everyone else. What ends up happening is that your 3rd level guy gets the right amount of XP and the 4th, 5th, and 6th level guys get less because the fight wasn't as hard for them.

In short, when you use the FRCS method, your lower level characters will catch up to your higher level characters much faster (as they should) than by using the DMG method. When you use the DMG method, the lower level guys simply don't catch up unless you start giving them adhoc XP to help them along.
 
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Re: Re: Giving EP to group with lvl differences?

kreynolds said:
Not exactly. That works if all the monsters have the same CR, but if not, it doesn't work. You have to remember that XP is calculated using Challenge Rating, not Encounter Level.

Can't you do it either way? Doesn't it usually amount to the same XP?

Two CR 5 monsters make an EL 7, and a 7 gives twice as much XP as a 5. Unless you're talking about odd situations, like a 14th level party facing that encounter, it usually works either way.
 



EL is not CR. It is used to determine if the number of creatures would be a good challenge for the party. not for exps. Xps are based off of CR only.
 

noretoc said:
EL is not CR. It is used to determine if the number of creatures would be a good challenge for the party. not for exps. Xps are based off of CR only.

You can use EL most of the time, and get the same (or very similar) results.

Geoff.
 

melkoriii said:
OK Lets say I have a party of:
Two lvl 3
One lvl 4
One lvl 5
and one lvl 6

First you calculate EPL (effective party level :D ), like this:
(3+4+5+6)/4 = 18/8 = 4.5 round down = 4
How would I give EP if they found and killed 4 CR Ghasts CR 3 mobs?
You look up this encounter in the DMG and give it an over all challenge rating.

The you divide that experience evenly among all the PCs.
 

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