D&D (2024) Greyhawk- New Map, Discussion of Changes

[JEB]

Reincarnation roll gone spicy, or self-polymorph experiment to hide from debtors

Or adopted kid of the original NPC.

 

[Demetrios1453]

I wouldn't be aurprised if the DMG text calls our that there are more gods, maybe even referring the reader to DMsGuild material.

The 3e FRCS did something like this, having a chart with the full list of deities, and then went on to more fully describe a couple dozen or so of the more important ones in depth. I wouldn't be surprised if the DMG does something similar. The ones on the DM screen would be the "in-depth" ones.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

I wouldn't be aurprised if the DMG text calls our that there are more gods, maybe even referring the reader to DMsGuild material.

You read my mind.

 

[Plaguescarred]

I really like the GREYHAWK map Mike you homerunned it!

The change to Blackmoor certainly had ramifications but i would preferred to keep it around personally.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

As a none expert on Greyhawk can some explain to me please the changes and what they mean for the setting in regards to Blackmoore?

 

[haakon1]

As a none expert on Greyhawk can some explain to me please the changes and what they mean for the setting in regards to Blackmoore?

The only thing I know is it’s called Arn now.

 

[Voadam]

As a none expert on Greyhawk can some explain to me please the changes and what they mean for the setting in regards to Blackmoore?

All we really know so far is that the realm formerly known as Blackmoor is now labeled Arn.

Blackmoor was Dave Arneson’s original setting and early on there was some overlap with Gygax’s home Greyhawk campaign.

When Gygax published his World of Greyhawk setting he included an out of the way northern border kingdom of Blackmoor which had both similarities and differences to Arneson’s Blackmoor.

Arneson put out Blackmoor stuff later in basic D&D BECMI Mystara, both as an area in the setting but also some modules.

Later on he did a D20 stand-alone setting and castle Blackmoor module and sourcebooks for Zeitgeist Games.

There may be more stuff as well.

We will have to wait and see the specifics of Arn and how they match or diverge from stuff before.

 

[Parmandur]

Nothing to see hwre

 

[Parmandur]

As a none expert on Greyhawk can some explain to me please the changes and what they mean for the setting in regards to Blackmoore?

To be honest, we don't really know before we see the text. What is crystal clear from the map is that all metaplot geopolitical events after the original Folio/box set have been undone, which would match the setup on Ghosts of Saltmarsh, so it is a back to the original timeline reboot (countries that got wiped out in 1989 are restored, all countries are back to their original borders even if renamed).

Other than that, some of the changes are country names goijg from exonyjs to endonyms (the Tiger Nomads do not call themselves thsr, and their own name from the original Folio is the one on the map now instead of what the people fo Greyhawk call them, etc.). The Scsrlet Brotherhood has been renamed to the countrybname of Shar, which makes sense as that is like having called Thay "The Red Wizards" in a map.

Blackmoor, specifically, is the interesting exception was renamed Arn on the map, a clear reference to Dave Arneson. Unclear exactly hat that means until we have the text.

Broadly, the images and snippets have also demonstrated that Dragonborn and such are in Greyhawk retroactively, which is no shock.

 

[Charlaquin]

Broadly, the images and snippets have also demonstrated that Dragonborn and such are in Greyhawk retroactively, which is no shock.

I’m very curious to see what they do with the demographics and what the reaction to that will be, since being humanocentric is one of the first things I always hear Greyhawk fans mention about it, along with that it’s “sword and sorcery,” that it’s “medieval to FR’s Renaissance,” and that it features all the most famous named characters.