Head over heels for a girl.

[EricNoah]

TB do you have a website? You should be posting your various "guides to life" somewhere permanent so we can just make links to them.

I will add ... being a jerk is not something that comes naturally to me. And I never had to be one to get girls. Doesn't mean I wasn't playfully antagonistic when necessary.

 

[DaveMage]

I sense an EN World contest with "Win a Dream Date with Teflon Billy!" mentioned somewhere coming soon...

I'd enter.

I'd just have to figure out how to explain it to my wife.

"Don't worry, honey, it's just TB! It'll be fun!"

 

[Desdichado]

In the same vein (and I think I've thought it through this time), girls like guys who irritate them. It gives them something to "fix." I don't agree that you have to be a real jerk, but when looking for relationships, girls have a love/hate relationship with being irritated. A perfectly nice person is no challenge, and therefore not worth having.

Actually, I think that's pretty much exactly what TB was talking about. The words used are a bit different, but the spirit of the advise is exactly the same.

And it's not always that friends can't be more than friends. There was a gal I knew and considered a friend in high school that I could have had at pretty much any moment if I'd been experienced enough to read between the lines and take her up on it. I only found out later, when I didn't really run in her circle anymore that that was going on. I would have jumped on the opportunity too, if I'd known about it. Of course, later it would have ended in a flaming mess as I got really tired of her neurosis and pathological insecurity (which I could see, but which didn't bother me as a "friend" because it only applied to her romantic relationships), but I bet the sex in the meantime would have been great! It always is with pathologically clingy girls who are desperately afraid of being alone.

But still, I'll echo the chorus--just be this girl's friend if you want and move on. Go out with someone else.

 

[Xath]

Actually, I think that's pretty much exactly what TB was talking about. The words used are a bit different, but the spirit of the advise is exactly the same.

It's the girl perspective of the thing. If guys didn't irritate girls, they'd have nothing to complain to their girlfriends about. And with girls, there's almost an unconscious effort to show that your life has more challenges/complications than any other girls'. And then, when you have made a successful "change" to your boyfriend, you get to gloat that much more. I don't understand where it comes from, but there it is.

For some successful ideas of what you can do to irritate your girlfriend/wife, watch a few episodes of Home Improvement or Everybody Loves Raymond.

 

[Desdichado]

It's the girl perspective of the thing. If guys didn't irritate girls, they'd have nothing to complain to their girlfriends about. And with girls, there's almost an unconscious effort to show that your life has more challenges/complications than any other girls'. And then, when you have made a successful "change" to your boyfriend, you get to gloat that much more. I don't understand where it comes from, but there it is.

It's basic human nature, I think. A group of guys tends to do the same thing about their girlfriends and wives too.

We don't, though. I made a conscious decision years ago to never put down or complain about my wife to my friends, and she doesn't either. In fact, she gets really irritated when she's out with her girlfriends and all they're doing is dumping on their husbands.

But yeah, it's pretty common behavior from most people.

 

[Xath]

It's basic human nature, I think. A group of guys tends to do the same thing about their girlfriends and wives too.

We don't, though. I made a conscious decision years ago to never put down or complain about my wife to my friends, and she doesn't either. In fact, she gets really irritated when she's out with her girlfriends and all they're doing is dumping on their husbands.

But yeah, it's pretty common behavior from most people.

It used to annoy me to see/do that kind of stuff too. But I found myself doing it anyway, because as you say, human nature. So as a compromise to myself, I try not to say anything behind anyone's back that I have not already said to their face, or at least soon will say to their face.

 

[Henry]

We could all google our 16-year old crushes and post them... I found mine teaching at an ivy league school not too long ago. Looked pretty cute for 25 years later...

My 16-year-old crush married a good friend of mine years ago, and moved to Georgia, where we lost touch. I just Googled them both on a lark, and found her as an Arts Coordinator in an arts center in Georgia, and he's a freakin' Vice President of a Tech firm! WOW! It's good to see them doing well...

 

[Chainsaw Mage]

Love is about being scared, like I am now.
She will think I'm obsessed with her,
I'm scared that I'll stop loving her,
I'm scared she doesn't love me.
I'm scared I'm becoming unhealthily obsessed with her.

Yep, sounds like love, all right.

[giggles]

 

[Chainsaw Mage]

She said no, so do not ask her out any more...ask her to join you, this is stuff like "hey, I am going to the mall, do you want to join me? No, okay maybe some other time...take care." But don't do it too much and don't stalk her.

Ferret would then need to add, "Love is me stalking her."

 

[Psychic Skeksis]

Ferret would then need to add, "Love is me stalking her."

LOL!

I'm still hoping the original post was a joke . . . :\