D&D Movie/TV Honor Among Thieves takes the Hugo for best long-form presentation

[Deset Gled]

I wouldn't say Honor Among Thieves is a cult hit . . . it's a real hit!

I loved the movie as much as the next dnd nerd, but at the end of the day, it was a commercial failure.

D&D Movie/TV - D&D Movie Hit or Flop?

So I have been thinking about how well the D&D Movie will go financially. This thread is purely about the financial results of the movie not its quality. So what counts as a hit or flop objectively? Generally I go with expenses X2 at the box office. Cost of production plus marketing then...

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[Ruin Explorer]

D&D Movie/TV - D&D Movie Hit or Flop?

So I have been thinking about how well the D&D Movie will go financially. This thread is purely about the financial results of the movie not its quality. So what counts as a hit or flop objectively? Generally I go with expenses X2 at the box office. Cost of production plus marketing then...

www.enworld.org

Arrrrgh!

Whether it technically lost money or not (probably but definitely is the answer there), at best it was a problem because of opportunity cost - the same $210m spent making it and advertising it could, in theory, have been used to make a more successful movie - or multiple lower-budget ones.

But wait, the coffin is still opening!

Because recent box-office flops/mehs suggest maybe that isn't true! Sure, if that $210m went on MCU drivel, you'd definitely get it back at least, 100%. But this wasn't Disney. This was Paramount! They've been making a lot of flops or movies that aren't very successful (which is not necessarily as disastrous as one might think in Hollywood, that's a whole other story others can tell better). HAT might even represent a small enough failure that it's worth trying again for them, especially if they can avoid landing a lot as suicidal as the HAT landed in. And especially because almost everyone who saw HAT seemed to be well-disposed to it, like, they'd be happy to see another in the same vein.

 

[dbm]

Across the Spider-Verse was also excellent, however Honor among Thieves was a fun film that treated the subject matter with irreverent respect so kudos to them on a win.

 

[Guest 7031328]

I wouldn't say Honor Among Thieves is a cult hit . . . it's a real hit! It just hit theaters at a weird time and so struggled to make the kind of immediate bank Hollywood likes to see. But by every other measure, it's a blockbuster! I just hope the bean counters in La La Land can see that. It would be a mistake not to follow it up with another movie!

Put in between the Super Mario Bros movie and John Wick for everyday movie goers, and add a dash of the WotC OGL debacle to sour a chunk of the tabletop fans, and you had a stew for underperformance. Shame, it was legitimately a really good movie, far better than I was initially expecting given the history of D&D movies.

 

[bedir than]

The Honor Among Thieves social accounts woke up this week and reminded the world that they exist.

They didn't mention the award.

 

[sevenbastard]

Congrats to it!

But honestly this award means nothing if Fury Road somehow lost to The Martian.

The list for 1983 is solid gold. When E.T. is your weakest movie..... plus they didn't even have room for The Thing.

How did the "Eurovision Song Contest: The Story of Fire Saga" get nominated.

 

[Parmandur]

Congrats to it!

But honestly this award means nothing if Fury Road somehow lost to The Martian.

The list for 1983 is solid gold. When E.T. is your weakest movie..... plus they didn't even have room for The Thing.

How did the "Eurovision Song Contest: The Story of Fire Saga" get nominated.

I dunno, Fury Road is probably a better movie, but The Martian is better as sci-fi.

 

[Cordwainer Fish]

How did the "Eurovision Song Contest: The Story of Fire Saga" get nominated.

At a wild guess... people nominated it?

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I dunno, Fury Road is probably a better movie, but The Martian is better as sci-fi.

Frankly, I didn't care much for either movie. Fury Road was the ultimate triumph of style over substance, and The Martian was scientifically accurate, apart from when the science was inconvenient (such as Sean Bean keeping his head, which we know is statistically impossible).

 

[Seramus]

I can see how HAT beat Spider-Man in the Hugo. Both are great movies, but Spider-Man focuses more on story and character development while HAT has more focus on the fantasy elements. And the Hugo leans more towards excellence in depicting sci-fi and fantasy elements than it does on having a great story.