I've been that guy, just once (I swear!). But the folks* running the KS were wonderful to me in that occasion...We hate that guy!![]()
* It was one of the Scarred Lands projects ran by Onyx Path.
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I've been that guy, just once (I swear!). But the folks* running the KS were wonderful to me in that occasion...We hate that guy!![]()
I struggle with the lack of oversight on Kickstarter. Creators are technically supposed to keep in contact with patrons but there is no one to appeal to if this doesn’t happen. They are technically supposed to provide all committed projects or offer an explanation as to why not.. but there is nothing enforcing this.
I don't know if that's a joke or serious! I imagine it's nice to have a backer give you a large sum and never get demanding, but also probably annoying when I send you a private email asking how to claim my stuff because all the backer reward links have expired.We hate that guy!![]()
this sounds good but the web does a HORRABLE job at showing this... just look at Morus, he IS using it as a store and you get it right away.That's because with the traditional publishing model, it was, "I will give you money for a finished product."
With crowdfunding, it's "I will give you money to finish a product."
Kickstarter is for people who, for whatever reason, have not capitalized their project. Maybe they couldn't secure financing, maybe their business model is garbage, maybe their product is unworkable, maybe they are clueless on how a product gets to market. Whatever the reason, you are the source of capital investment.
Want to be an investor? Use Kickstarter.
Want to buy an actual product that actually exists? Use Amazon.
Kickstarter is not a store.
For most creators it's probably fine. When you have run 30 Kickstarters like I have, and number of people on each one do that (and they do), years later you're dealing with a fairly constant trickle of people you have to delve back years into the past to figure out how to help them (and usually you no longer have access to Kickstarter backer reports at that point--and Kickstarter makes you agree to delete the original reports once you've used them, so technically it can be tricky to resolve). Also, sometimes that product is no longer even available, especially with a licensed property. So you go to refund them, and find their credit card expired years ago and can't be refunded to.I don't know if that's a joke or serious! I imagine it's nice to have a backer give you a large sum and never get demanding, but also probably annoying when I send you a private email asking how to claim my stuff because all the backer reward links have expired.
Maybe both?![]()
I haven't run into that yet, but I have run into several people email me asking about expired links or saying they never got the files. As a general rule, I just send out a new link (if it's a digital copy) no questions asked.For most creators it's probably fine. When you have run 30 Kickstarters like I have, and number of people on each one do that (and they do), years later you're dealing with a fairly constant trickle of people you have to delve back years into the past to figure out how to help them (and usually you no longer have access to Kickstarter backer reports at that point--and Kickstarter makes you agree to delete the original reports once you've used them, so technically it can be tricky to resolve). Also, sometimes that product is no longer even available, especially with a licensed property. So you go to refund them, and find their credit card expired years ago and can't be refunded to.
Tehnically you can't use it as a store -- you have to have a new product each time, not an older existing one. You can add older ones as addons or whatever, but the primary product has to be new (even it if it's just a reprinting with a new cover). So you can't take a book you already have available for sale and put it on Kickstarter.this sounds good but the web does a HORRABLE job at showing this... just look at Morus, he IS using it as a store and you get it right away.
correct, but what I meant (and maybe said wrong) is you already have your book written, it is ready to go. When the KS ends you send out the PDFs and they get them (as if they had preordered) and you include the previous items as add ons so you can buy 10 of your pdfs as if you were buying form SUpercoolMorrusstore.com with a preorder of the new book.Tehnically you can't use it as a store -- you have to have a new product each time, not an older existing one. You can add older ones as addons or whatever, but the primary product has to be new (even it if it's just a reprinting with a new cover). So you can't take a book you already have available for sale and put it on Kickstarter.
i currently don't have a FLGS (it did not survive BEFORE covid) so I have gotten my last few books from amazon and even before hand had gotten gifts bought through there. I only 1 time had a book damagedAnyone buy through amazon and not have the corners smashed on their books? I hate that, it's like someone threw them on the ground on purpose.