I saw the MATRIX 2 thread SPOILERS ABOUND

EricNoah said:
Over at Nutkinland someone posted a theory that food is programming (the red pill, the cake) and pointed out that Neo was offered food by the Oracle in both movies.

Hmmm... Possible... That one thing that Neo got from the Oracle looked an awful lot like the red pill he ate to get freed from the matrix the first time...

And if we do buy the second-matrix idea...

Well, it seems he's in the process of being freed from it, now (With the sentinals, the coma...)...
 

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If the humans aren't batteries, then what are they?

Maybe they're waiting receptacles for artificial intelligence to enter them ... like Smith did.

We'll understand that better, I think, when we find out why Neo went into a coma at the end.
 


Wormwood said:
I always thought human brains would make pretty good memory chips/archival media.

Maybe we're the Zip disks of the future?
Does that mean that The Matrix will replace humans with something cheaper that holds more data and will be easier to produce? :p

On a more serious note, does anyone else really miss Tank? He was one of my favorite charaters from the orginal and I thought that he brought alot to the film. The Lock character is okay and is decent comic relief (the "Where's my pus..?" line was the biggest laugh of the movie) but I didn't think his antics were really needed. I miss Tank...
 

I can do without Tank very easily - he overacted quite badly in the first movie. He's also got a website up somewhere where he (and his friends) rants on about the evils of Joel Silver for not being willing to cough up enough dough for the actor to return for a second movie.
 

Gumby said:
I can do without Tank very easily - he overacted quite badly in the first movie. He's also got a website up somewhere where he (and his friends) rants on about the evils of Joel Silver for not being willing to cough up enough dough for the actor to return for a second movie.
Hmmm. I'll take overacted (which I don't agree with) Tank over the "I'm giddy like a school girl with a new dress" Lock. ;)
 

When a movie has a budget the size of this one and they choose not to have a character return it's rarely because they are being stingy. If the guy has a website where he's dissing Silver, we can only imagine what he's like to work with on the set. Nothing is more damaging to a career for an actor than the whispers of "difficult to work with" circulating among producers, directors and casting agents...
 


Did anyone else think the scene towards the beginning in which Morpheus receives a dressing-down from Commander Lock in Lock's cave/office harkened back to the scene in the first film where Neo receives a similar rant from his boss at Metacortex?

The implication seems to be that even in the post-apocalypse, you can't escape jerky, micro-managing supervisors.
 

The two things that could end up being true in the 3rd movie that would impress the hell out of me but almost certainly won't happen.

1) None of it is real. The movies are all taking place inside Neo's head, while he sleeps in a world that's so far in the future, humans can transcend space and time. But to do so, they must first undergo this journey, learn to become more than they are. And every human in this future must star in his or her own verion of the Matrix before undergoing apotheosis and joining society.

2) The machines are the Bene Gesserit, doing this to humanity on purpose with the hopes of producing The One who can unite them. After all, what is Keanu Reeves' character, but someone who is both Man and Machine? Existing in the real world, in Zion, and in the Matrix as a program just as the other machines do.
 

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