I saw the MATRIX 2 thread SPOILERS ABOUND

[John Crichton]

I thought a number of moments in the movie did this, the rave, the fights. Almost like they said just one more kick, okay one more...It was enjoyable but it seemed to lack something to make it stand out.

Agreed. There were many times that I thought a scene should have ended much earlier than it did.

 

[drothgery]

On a more serious note, does anyone else really miss Tank? He was one of my favorite charaters from the orginal and I thought that he brought alot to the film. The Lock character is okay and is decent comic relief (the "Where's my pus..?" line was the biggest laugh of the movie) but I didn't think his antics were really needed. I miss Tank...

I think you meant Link, not Locke -- and it's Locke, not Lock; what's the world coming to when gamers don't catche references to Enlightment-era philosophers?

 

[Welverin]

Ok I have a quote I need some verification on. When the Neb blows up at the end Morph say "I dreamed a (little) dream and now that dream is _____." Not sure if little is in there or not and I didn't quite catch the last word, but I believe it is dreaming. So the whole quote would be "I dreamed a little dream and now that dream is dreaming."

We all know how the WB love to foreshadow everything and this would help collaborate the speculation about the recursive matricies.

I however still don't buy it and this is why, everything in the matrix is still tinted green and everything outside is not (and is maybe a little blue). So unless the Bros were lying about it to throw everyone off, I'll go under the assumption that Neo has developed powers outside the matrix.

One last thing, during the Revolutions trailer voice over when the oracle is saying you need to stop him or he will ruin/destroy everything, who do you think she was talking to? Neo or Smith?

 

[Viking Bastard]

Everything inside the Matrix is tinted green and everything outside it is tinted blue.

Maybe the "Real World" is untinted.

 

[theRogueRooster]

Regarding the Rave scene:

I have seen the movie twice now. The first time was with my parents, and I thought the rave scene would never end. The second time was with my wife, and interestingly enough, I really enjoyed it. It seems I could follow the movie to that sensual level while watching with my wife, but not with my parents. Go figure. Who you see the movie with matters!

Although I really enjoyed the movie (both times!) I do agree that it felt a bit like filler for the third movie. We do get fed a lot of new information to chew on, but plot-wise not a whole lot actually happened. The fight scenes, while super cool, felt like they were stretched out for no other reason than to take up more time. Without the fight scenes, we probably could have gotten the information we needed for the third movie in about 20 minutes.

I'm with those who think that Zion is another level of the Matrix, and I think that it is a cool concept. Some of you wiser, more knowledgable folks may consider the concept tired and boring, but it's new to me -- and fascinating. I'm looking forward to seeing what the "truth" is about the matrix.

For those who didn't sit through the Longest Credits Ever to see the teaser, you didn't really miss much. The teaser was just that, and you don't learn anything about the third movie, other than there is a showdown between Neo and Agent Smith (shocker!).

-tRR

 

[Tsyr]

i think the clinching factor that proves the mutlimatrix theory though isnt even neo's use of powers to stop the squiddies, but the mere prescence of agent smith in the "real world". theres just no feasible way for that to have happend unless its just another layer of computer program.

Nah. That part doesn't bother me... He brainjacked them. It's been done before in sci-fi, and it will be done again.

Though I still buy into the multilayer matrix theory...

 

[uv23]

Re: Re: Re: I saw the MATRIX 2 thread SPOILERS ABOUND

23! Behold the hand of the Illuminati!

All hail Choronzon.

Yeah the movie was fun. I was underwhelmed by the fight scenes - something about them just seemed really fake. Almost as though I was watching ballet rather than fighting. None of the impacts seemed to have any.. well.. impact, despite the best efforts of the actors to bash themselves around.

The twist was interesting. I am under the assumption that the oracle and so forth were all part of the matrix railroading Neo into doing exactly what he did. But in that case, doesn't the keymaker also fall into the baddie camp? He seemed so sincere.

All in all a good entertaining show with lots to think about. Anyways, wish I had known about the trailer at the end of the credits.

 

[EricNoah]

On a second viewing .... I am less convinced of the "matrix within a matrix" theory and perhaps more convinced that perhaps there's some plot by the rogue programs to maybe steal human bodies to use. Something along those lines.

 

[kingpaul]

But the encounter with the Architect was, I thought, a massive chokepoint - it dropped me right out of the film.

Really? I liked that scene. Threw another wrench into what I thought was going on.

 

[kingpaul]

Re: Re: I saw the MATRIX 2 thread SPOILERS ABOUND

Now, after he ressurrects Trinity, they leave the Matrix and are attacked by sentinals. Neo does something, and kills them.

How?

One of my friends says its psychosomatic. Because Neo can do it in the Matrix, he has now convinced himself he can do it in the real world; the whole "mind over matter" thing. This is why the machines fear him so much, because he's now tapping into the true human potential.