D&D (2024) If short rest abilities become Prof # tiimes per day?

[doctorbadwolf]

Well, you make a good point about healing and hit Dice mechanics. But if they do keep Short Rests from that, then someone could easily show up with a Way of the Elements Monk from 2014 and play at a 2024 table next to a 2024 Monk (or Monk equivalent: I hope they reflavor them hard), and it would work.

Absolutely. I also hope they will reflavor the monk, but I’m not optimistic about. Especially since so many people seem to want it to lean harder into “martial artist”, and thus be less distinct from the fighter, rather than leaning into the mystical nature of the monk, encompassing all sorts of highly trained warriors who incorporate their culture’s mystic traditions into thier martial practice.

I don't think that a given module has to plug directly into another to stay compatible: Paladin Subclasses don't work with Fighters, and I would still call the different Classes fully compatible.

That’s a very different case from Fighter and Updated Fighter.

So, at a maximal level, I could see a set of basically new Classes inserted into the same rules framework.

That’s fair, but don’t you think that would upset the fan base, especially if they appear in a new PHB? Especially since they haven’t indicated at all that it’s a new phb rather than a special edition reprint with errata.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

Bring back the 5 min short rest, but make it limited to Prof # before a long rest.

Fixed!

This is bloody good idea. I wouldn't personally use it, but it still is.

I like my eight hour long gritty short rests, and I've been worrying that the anniversary edition will do away with short rests altogether, and I really don't want that. But your suggestion pretty much perfectly solves the issue for those who feel it needs solving, whilst not getting rid of short rests and short rest based recharges.

 

[Parmandur]

Absolutely. I also hope they will reflavor the monk, but I’m not optimistic about. Especially since so many people seem to want it to lean harder into “martial artist”, and thus be less distinct from the fighter, rather than leaning into the mystical nature of the monk, encompassing all sorts of highly trained warriors who incorporate their culture’s mystic traditions into thier martial practice.

That’s a very different case from Fighter and Updated Fighter.

That’s fair, but don’t you think that would upset the fan base, especially if they appear in a new PHB? Especially since they haven’t indicated at all that it’s a new phb rather than a special edition reprint with errata.

I don't think they have indicated that it is a special edition with errata. The vibe they have given is "new edition collating the evolutions of the past decade." I think that's why they started talking about a full 3 years early.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Prof per day will convert the game to 5 minute work day all the time every time.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Prof per day will convert the game to 5 minute work day all the time every time.

That was my worry with prof per day action surges...even if you do prf# of 5 min short rests then the fighter will just action surge every fight and then burn a short rest then action surge...

 

[Charlaquin]

Weird. I though people didn't want classes to be on the same resorce recovery system because it would make classes too samey.

People didn’t, a decade ago when the audience was primarily fans of past editions of D&D. I imagine most of those people still don’t (I know I still don’t). But we’re in the minority now.

 

[Baron Opal II]

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[Charlaquin]

Yeah, I think you have a point. I do think Warlocks and Monks will see some serious tinkering to make them more "tableproof" like other Classes.

I don’t think it would take that much tinkering. Just give them an ability that lets them recover their spell slots / Ki points as a 10-minute ritual, which they can use prof bonus times per long rest.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

People didn’t, a decade ago when the audience was primarily fans of past editions of D&D. I imagine most of those people still don’t (I know I still don’t). But we’re in the minority now.

I still don't want it and I like having different rest schedules. Though I get that balancing and managing that is somewhat tricky.

But if there were to be just one rest type, I absolutely would want it to be the short rest (that refreshes some fraction of your resources) rather than long rest (which refreshes all.) Full refresh nature of the long rest makes it annoying "all or nothing" option.

 

[Horwath]

Bring back the 5 min short rest, but make it limited to Prof # before a long rest.

Fixed!

people have been saying this from start of 5E, maybe they will listen.

1hr short rest have no sense.

If you manage to make 1hr safe for rest, most of the time you can manage 8, so why not take the long rest instead.

But I believe that most stuff will be prof bonus/long rest, and short rest will be for HD spending and some recharge powers(ki pts, arcane recovery and similar)