OneDnD If the surveys are not read (+)

Lets say that for the sake of this thread, WotC doesn't read the surveys and only look at the argot numbers to justify things they already want to change. (again premises is that they are NOT honest with us about this)

Okay, so we say that.... what does the current design of the playtest tell you about what 1D&D is shapeing up?

Edit: I don't want to be a pain, but I spelled out this is a + and a what if... not a debate on if they do.
 
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Scribe

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Vaalingrade

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I don't think we've seen enough to be sure.

They're definitely 'simplifying' casters by making them work like the most complex casters in the game.

They've plainly abandoned level 1 and 2 for the Learners' Levels.

And then there's Ardlings. They REALLY want Ardlings to work for some reason. I guess someone watch Moon Knight and really wants animal-headed people without being called a furry.
 


Haplo781

Legend
Lets say that for the sake of this thread, WotC doesn't read the surveys and only look at the argot numbers to justify things they already want to change. (again premises is that they are NOT honest with us about this)

Okay, so we say that.... what does the current design of the playtest tell you about what 1D&D is shapeing up?
Literally nothing. Remember that we had a public playtest for Next and it was literally thrown out in favor of "internal playtesters".
 



Lets say that for the sake of this thread, WotC doesn't read the surveys and only look at the argot numbers to justify things they already want to change. (again premises is that they are NOT honest with us about this)

Okay, so we say that.... what does the current design of the playtest tell you about what 1D&D is shapeing up?
You mean the surveys for the rules? Not the OGL.
Well I guess that a rule or another won’t change much for designer. they want a game that appeal people. Crawford feel very enthusiastic about receiving feedback, so I guess they read them.
But if you truly doubt they even read the survey for rules, maybe take a break from internet for a while…
 

You mean the surveys for the rules? Not the OGL.
right this is 100% a rules thread... for 1D&D
Well I guess that a rule or another won’t change much for designer. they want a game that appeal people. Crawford feel very enthusiastic about receiving feedback, so I guess they read them.
But if you truly doubt they even read the survey for rules, maybe take a break from internet for a while…
the point of the thread is the hypothetical.

If the leak is ture, if they are not reading our responces... not that I am saying that (nore did I come up with it)
 

Clint_L

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So, there are a lot of implications to this, and if the hearsay is correct, the situation is scandalous. So scandalous that I want to see some hard reporting before I overreact. I have spent a lot of time providing written feedback to WotC. So my initial response is to feel very, very ticked off but it may be that I do not have the complete story.

I would like on the record clarification from WotC of exactly how they use our feedback, and our written feedback in particular. I want people who matter on the record, telling us unequivocally what the process is and whether or not every word gets read by someone who matters. I want to know what the process is for distilling that written feedback and conveying it up the chain of command. I want to know exactly how much consideration it is given, and by whom.

If it has simply been a PR scam all along, as alleged, then I want a public apology from whoever ultimately permitted that to happen, and I want a new policy in place, vetted by us. If they actually have no use for our written feedback, then I want that stated, unequivocally.

They have the right to not want any of our feedback, written or otherwise. But they do not have the right to use us as patsies.
 

TheSword

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My suspicion is that they use the quantative scores. Then where there are low results read the comments to get a flavour of why. That’s why most comments are there - context for the numbers. Not to individually consider something that can’t be quantified - like it’s another question or something.
 

Clint_L

Hero
My suspicion is that they use the quantative scores. Then where there are low results read the comments to get a flavour of why. That’s why most comments are there - context for the numbers. Not to individually consider something that can’t be quantified - like it’s another question or something.
If that is the case, then that is very different than what is alleged in the D&D Shorts video. This is why I want on the record clarification of the exact process.
 

Zubatcarteira

Now you're infected by the Musical Doodle
I recall Jeremy Crawford stating explicitly that they read every single thing people write on the surveys, so if they don't even read anything it's gonna be a big yikes.
 




I understand not wanting to solicit a bunch of ranting and raving, but I find that predicting what exactly I think OneD&D is shaping up to be based on the overall thrust of the playtests within the specific hypothetical framework of them not reading the survey feedback is a tall enough order without also needing to be positive about my conclusions.

Good luck to anyone who wants to give it a go.
 

tetrasodium

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There's not enough oned&d stuff to form much of an opinion over yet. I'll probably keep doing breakdowns like in my sig... Although to be completely honest I might be more excited about other upcoming ttrpgs because the total failure to support GMs with 5e has eaten away too much good will.
 
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