improved intiative on weapons

[kreynolds]

nevermind. I'm an idiot. I made a stupid post and had to erase it. Kudos to those of you lucky enough to see it.

 

[Archer]

The people at Mongoose decided to add double improved initiative as a feat. This was generally regarded as unwise.

 

[Crothian]

The people at Mongoose decided to add double improved initiative as a feat. This was generally regarded as unwise.

I don't think it's unwise as a feat. Heck, you need BRS of 6 to qualify. I think it's bad on a weapon to have any type of iniative modifier because it creates problems. THe feat in QF is a good feat IMO.

 

[Archer]

Notice how the word base is never used throughout QSF? Some prereqs are saves of 12+, this leaves some doubt as to whether they meant to say base since 12 is the highest base saves go at level 20.

I wonder when the 3 MB of errata for QSF will be ready or if they ever intend to fix the errors. It takes WOTC a long time to release errata and their books sell millions. How many thousand copies did QSF sell?

 

[Gromm]

In answer to the original question: I would vote for them not stacking.

I agree, theres something somewhere about not being able to stack bonuses from the same source (spells, etc) unless they specifically say it can be done. Last I looked you couldn't take Improved Init twice for double the effect, so you wouldn't get the feat twice in this case either.
So for a character with Imp Init already it does no good (just like Sunder or any other feat on an intellegent weapon).

 

[hong]

Originally posted by Rixshaw
In a group that I am playing in we have a fighter with a weapon with improved intiative on it. What would happen if that weapon was given to a character that already has that feat. As of right now I am not sure how the weapon could be built with feats on it, but anyways would that then let the character with improved intiative and that weapon get a total +8, or maybe a (4+2) +6 like a synergy bonus or just his normal +4.

There are a number of weapon enchantments that improve your initiative, most notably in OA. The Focus enchantment gives a +4 insight bonus to Iaijutsu Focus checks even when the weapon is sheathed (this would only affect initiative in an iaijutsu duel, however). The Initiative bonus gives a +2 luck bonus to init when the weapon is carried.

In your case, how is the weapon's enchantment worded? If the enchantment says something like "this weapon grants +4 to init as if the wielder has the Improved Initiative feat", then it's a straight +4, even if the wielder already has that feat -- feats generally don't stack. However, if the weapon simply grants a +4 bonus without any mention of Improved Initiative, then the bonuses would stack. Without any more information, I would be inclined to go with the first alternative.