Intelligent weapons with alignment...

[Darklone]

Just a simple question: Does an intelligent weapon with Chaotic Good alignment ignore DR/good or chaotic? I tend to think not, but IMHO it would make sense...

 

[Li Shenron]

I think "Chaotic" and "Good" qualities are separate weapon abilities, so the CG intelligent weapon would not bypass DR/C or G, just as a Chaotic Goood creature would not automatically bypass that DR unless it had a weapon with the Chaotic or Good quality.

 

[hong]

No, it doesn't ignore DR. Although you could give it the ability to cast align weapon on itself at will....

 

[Hypersmurf]

Although you could give it the ability to cast align weapon on itself at will....

Wouldn't work.

"This spell has no effect on a weapon that already has an alignment."

While a Chaotic Good Intelligent Longsword might not bypass DR X/Chaotic or DR X/Good, it is unquestionably "a weapon that already has an alignment".

-Hyp.

 

[Tessarael]

Given that intelligent weapons are fairly rare, and that it's fairly difficult to get aligned weapons ...

I say why not? Allow intelligent weapons with an alignment to count as a particular alignment type for the purpose of breaching DR.

Also, there's some rituals in Savage Species that allow you to change your subtype to Good, Evil, etc. I'd argue that if you do one of these rituals, then your weapons also will breach the appropriate DR.

Just my thoughts ...

 

[Darklone]

Wouldn't work.

"This spell has no effect on a weapon that already has an alignment."

While a Chaotic Good Intelligent Longsword might not bypass DR X/Chaotic or DR X/Good, it is unquestionably "a weapon that already has an alignment".

-Hyp.

Wawawawait a sec, Hyp... Darn, I'm lost without my books

Does this mean, a chaotic good longsword can't have Align Weapon cast on it and is thus less able to penetrate DR X/chaotic or good than any MW weapon as long as the spell is available?????

 

[Li Shenron]

Wawawawait a sec, Hyp... Darn, I'm lost without my books

Does this mean, a chaotic good longsword can't have Align Weapon cast on it and is thus less able to penetrate DR X/chaotic or good than any MW weapon as long as the spell is available?????

Although Hyp is probably right by the letter of the rules, I agree with you Darklone that this must have been overlooked by the authors, because it just doesn't make sense. Either the intelligent weapon should be able to receive Align Weapon because it doesn't have an alignment quality to bypass DR, or otherwise it should automatically have that quality.

 

[Li Shenron]

Wawawawait a sec, Hyp... Darn, I'm lost without my books

May I suggest you to dowload the SRD in HTML format made by Sovelior? It's damn quick to find what you are looking for!

 

[Hypersmurf]

Does this mean, a chaotic good longsword can't have Align Weapon cast on it and is thus less able to penetrate DR X/chaotic or good than any MW weapon as long as the spell is available?????

The wording of Align Weapon is fairly unambiguous.

As to whether that makes an intelligent weapon less able to bypass DR, it depends on whether you rule that an intelligent weapon does not bypass aligned DR as a function of having an alignment.

If you rule it can, it means you can add a weapon that bypasses two types of aligned DR to your golf bag for about 4300gp (300 for MW, 2000 for +1, 1000 for the lowest level of intelligence, and 1000 for a lesser power).

Now, that's obviously much cheaper than 50k for a Holy Anarchic +1 sword, but you don't get your +2d6s out of it...

Up to the DM. Intelligent weapons inflict negative levels on misaligned wielders, so there's definitely room to suggest that they're more aligned than just some Chaotic Good elf-on-the-street... more like having the [Chaotic] and [Good] subtypes... and so you could easily rule that they do penetrate aligned DR.

-Hyp.

 

[Darklone]

I do have the SRD stuff... but I prefer the books for looking up rules

Hmm, what about this interpretation: For an intelligent weapon with alignment, it's "attacks" as "natural weapons" should penetrate DR ...