D&D 5E Is Paladine Bahamut? Is Takhisis Tiamat? Fizban's Treasury Might Reveal The Answer!

According to WotC's James Wyatt, Fizban's Treasury of Dragons introduces a new cosmology for dragon gods, where the same beings, including Fizban, echo across various D&D campaign settings with alternate versions of themselves (presumably like Paladine/Bahamut, or Takhisis/Tiamat). Also... the various version can merge into one single form.

Takhisis is the five-headed dragon god of evil from the Dragonlance setting. Paladine is the platinum dragon god of good (and also Fizban's alter-ego).

Additionally, the book will contain psychic gem dragons, with stats for all four age categories of the five varieties (traditionally there are Amethyst, Crystal, Emerald, Sapphire, and Topaz), plus Dragonborn characters based on metallic, chromatic, and gem dragons.

D&D 5E - Check out Fizban's Alternate Cover!

WotC's James Wyatt talked to Polygon about Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, which also revealed the alternate cover, which you can only get from hobby stores. https://www.enworld.org/threads/fizbans-treasury-the-dragon-book-now-has-a-description-and-a-feat.681399/

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D&D 5E - Fizban's Treasury: The Dragon Book Now Has A Description... And A Feat

Courtesy of Amazon, we now have a description for Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, the October D&D hardcover. The book introduces gem dragons, dragon-themed player options, and plenty of draconic lore! This joins September's The Wild Beyond the Witchlight, and November's Strixhaven: Curriculum of...

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[Bolares]

But each of those was an entirely distinct multiverse, with its own planes and personalities that were completely unconnected to those planes and personalities in others, even if they shared the same name.

This is how I prefer my multiverses.

 

[Carlsen Chris]

I'm really not a fan of mashing together characters from different settings just because they have some similarities. It makes both settings worse IMHO.

Guess you aren't a big fan of Roman religion.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Guess you aren't a big fan of Roman religion.

Yeah the Roman model isn’t exactly respectful of the legitimacy of other cultures.

 

[Hexmage-EN]

Yeah the Roman model isn’t exactly respectful of the legitimacy of other cultures.

Come to think of it, the Roman model of saying "Our interpretation of cosmology and the gods is the correct one, and anything that disagrees with it is just a misunderstanding the truth that we've figured out" is pretty apropos for the 2E/5E cosmology (especially the Planescape version).

Gaulish Dude: "I'm a worshiper of Sucellus, god of agriculture."
Roman Sage: "God of agriculture? Well, clearly this 'Sucellus' is just your name for Apollo."

 

[Parmandur]

Come to think of it, the Roman model of saying "Our interpretation of cosmology and the gods is the correct one, and anything that disagrees with it is just a misunderstanding the truth that we've figured out" is pretty apropos for the 2E/5E cosmology (especially the Planescape version).

Gaulish Dude: "I'm a worshiper of Sucellus, god of agriculture."
Roman Sage: "God of agriculture? Well, clearly this 'Sucellus' is just your name for Apollo."

But the Gauls were fine with that, and just felt that Apollo was another name for Sucellus. Same with the Greeks, Germans, Egyptians, etc. That's because they believed the gods were real, and ergo transcendent across cultures.

 

[Hexmage-EN]

But the Gauls were fine with that, and just felt that Apollo was another name for Sucellus. Same with the Greeks, Germans, Egyptians, etc. That's because they believed the gods were real, and ergo transcendent across cultures.

I'm pretty sure there was at least one major people group interacting with the Romans who didn't appreciate their religion and deity being subsumed into the Roman view of the gods.

 

[Parmandur]

I'm pretty sure there was at least one major people group interacting with the Romans who didn't appreciate their religion being subsumed into the Roman view of the gods.

Yes, indeed, and they outlasted and absorbed the Romans. But that is neither here nor there, the Translatio was generally well received, because gods are gods.

 

[Zeromaru X]

Come to think of it, the Roman model of saying "Our interpretation of cosmology and the gods is the correct one, and anything that disagrees with it is just a misunderstanding the truth that we've figured out" is pretty apropos for the 2E/5E cosmology (especially the Planescape version).

Another reason I don't like Planescape, lol.

Anyways, we should return to how Fizban and the Old Man with canaries are the one and the same. And in fact, when I used the Old Man in my game, I named him Fizban

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Come to think of it, the Roman model of saying "Our interpretation of cosmology and the gods is the correct one, and anything that disagrees with it is just a misunderstanding the truth that we've figured out" is pretty apropos for the 2E/5E cosmology (especially the Planescape version).

Gaulish Dude: "I'm a worshiper of Sucellus, god of agriculture."
Roman Sage: "God of agriculture? Well, clearly this 'Sucellus' is just your name for Apollo."

Yeah and considering we have vastly more records from the Roman side, I rather doubt that we have an especially good idea of what the various Celtic and Germanic peoples thought of the practice.

 

[Aaron L]

Here's an interesting tidbit I just realized while randomly reading through the Artifacts in the 5E DMG; the description of the Orbs of Dragonkind says that Takhisis is Tiamat's name on Krynn.

Topic settled, I guess.