Okay. The consumer who was never going to buy anyway... not the point. Okay? Please stop including this person in your counter-arguments. Honestly, I don't know how else to phrase or frame this. If this argument actually interests you, go back and read what I've previously said but assume this time I am not evil or without feeling.The point seems to be "WotC will magically know my intentions," and "it's bad if you don't buy WotC's books but OK if you don't buy Cypher System's or GURPS' books."
So, if you have a point other than that, please explain.
Unless your point is that I'm not buying 3pp tie-ins to WotC books, but I never bought those anyway, and neither did probably most people, in which case... I'm still not sure what your point is. Unless it's to say that WotC will magically know my intentions.
that is not how sales work. These are not lifetime rankings…This makes no sense. The fact that everyone has bought it means that it has high sales.
and what do you call that, demand / new sales. That is precisely my point.That, plus new players coming into the game--they would want a copy for themselves.
not sure what you mean, it ranks #1, what more data do you need to know it is selling wellUnless you have data that shows there's been a strange surge in sales recently?
See, at no point did I say it wasn't selling well. What I was saying is that it's weird to say it's super-popular and selling well, which means not many people have it. If it's been super-popular, then lots of people have it. If it wasn't super-popular, but there was a surge of sales, then it would mean lots of people didn't have it, but now they do.that is not how sales work. These are not lifetime rankings…
and what do you call that, demand / new sales. That is precisely my point.
not sure what you mean, it ranks #1, what more data do you need to know it is selling well
so being the #1 seller is not not selling well? I guess I am not sure what your point is… no, I assume it is not a surge and has been consistently selling well, that does not change the fact that it isWhat I was saying is that it's weird to say it's super-popular and selling well
You would need to actually read the entire sentence to understand the point:so being the #1 seller is not not selling well? I guess I am not sure what your point is
If I may have a go at my understanding of the argument, and while I can obviously follow my interpretation, doesn't mean I actually captured what they intended, but here goes:But this assumes that everyone who buys a D&D adventure or sourcebook is going to buy a 3pp add-on, which is totally not the case.
And it still fails to take into consideration all of the other gaming companies out there. If I spend $50 on a WotC adventure and add-ons, then other 3pps and other companies "get hurt" because of that. If I spend that $50 on books from, say, Mophidius, then WotC and those 3pps "get hurt."
So this whole idea that I'm hurting people because I'm not buying WotC books anymore is ridiculous. It's not like it's WotC or nothing. It's literally hundreds or thousands of game companies, and probably nobody on this site is rich enough to support every one of them.
yeah, apparently I did not mark the full text I wanted to. Still, my point is that if a book is selling well then obviously there are many people who 1) want it, and 2) do not yet have it, because not very many people will buy it twice. This says nothing about how many people already have itYou would need to actually read the entire sentence to understand the point:
"What I was saying is that it's weird to say it's super-popular and selling well, which means not many people have it."
You literally did:yeah, apparently I did not mark the full text I wanted to, still my point is that nobody was saying that
If everyone had it, I would not expect a lot of sales. It is selling great, so there are plenty people who do not have it yet. I doubt they all need a replacement copy...
No? I had no intention of buying the Dragonlance book because I don't like Dragonlance. I haven't bought the majority of the adventures they've published either because they didn't interest me or because I wanted to play in them, not run them. I have never bought a 3pp tie-in to any official WotC material. I've never even been interested in them.Because in one case you would have bought it.
learn to read… I said if everyone had it I would not expect high sales currently. There are high sales, so there are a lot of people buying it, most of which do not have it yet.You literally did:
Shockingly, neither Scribe nor I said "everyone" either.learn to read… I said if everyone had it I would not expect high sales currently. There are high sales, so there are a lot of people buying it, most of which do not have it yet.
Where does this say anything about not a lot of people already owning it? ‘Everyone’ is not the same as ‘a lot of people’
So no, I literally did not say that…
Still not getting it I see…Shockingly, neither Scribe nor I said "everyone" either.
I'll try once more.Because in one case you would have bought it.
Well, since nobody said "everyone," it's clear that you don't get it.Still not getting it I see…
‘everyone’ and a ‘lot of people’ are not the same thing.
This is a contradiction: everyone owns an i-phone and everyone does not own an i-phone
This too is a contradiction: everyone owns an i-phone and a lot of people do not own an i-phone
This is not a contradiction: a lot of people own an i-phone and a lot of people do not own an i-phone
If this does not clear it up, I give up